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severance
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The most ignominious defeat in comics

This topic is about what you think is the most shameful, badly written defeats in comic history.
E.g. Batamn takes the Hulk in an early crossover by somehow winding him and therefore getting him to suck in gas from a poison gas cansiter he opens. (its like being winded a by a housefly). Abysmal the writer shuld have his hands cut off!

I got a load of others but I wonder what anyone else has

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captain aamerica defeating batman, dont get me wrong but to me batman is beyong captain america, he that damn good


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Batman and Cap either winning isent an ignonimous defeat to anyone. Theyr close so any way its possible.

Batman taking Hulk with a kick isent.

And id say Hulk. Ironically one with the most over the top feats ever -in comics- its also one with some of the most lame defeats.

One by Batman.

Another when he was chocked by a snake.

And last by Spiderman thanks to a cement truck.

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Temujin beating Iron-Man without using his rings.


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Oh yeah. Thats another.

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Hulk got taken by Doc Ock as well - bloody sacrilege. Justed amped up Ock with adamantium arms cos now adamnatiums just lying around. You can't walk for tripping up on the stuff. Adamantium =beats thehulk. Rubbish

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hulkbusterironman and hulk nobody won instead they solved it in a peaceful negotaion and destroyed a factory, shown in green politics


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no love for spiderman vs. firelord?

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wolverine beating lobo, spidey beating firelord, HKH beating JP in their first encounter


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Firelord didnt fought back. He was mostly a punching bag iirc.

Maybe its only for me, but it doesnt sound as...oustrageous.

Sure Spiderman punching a herald is, but there are alot worse.

Lets say its in the list after these mentioned already devil

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how about the mandarin losing to the dreaded off-panel death?


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wolverine beating namor with one slash


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Yeah, Firelord must cry himself to sleep after that loss...

Also moving this thread.


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lmao this is hilarious


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way back in 80's Langowski sasquatch (the one that lifts up battleships and tosses plane) gets beaten up physically (no gadgets tricks or other powers) by...

wait for it...


machine man!!! I can bench more this purple skeined gaybot.

i know strength is not the ultimated arbiter of who wins a fight - but it is one is fighting a proverbial gnat

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Laminator_X
Temujin beating Iron-Man without using his rings.


didn't he channel the rings power into his Chi or something?

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Hulk got taken by Doc Ock as well - bloody sacrilege.


totally disagree..... the Hulk got his ass kicked and he deserved it... Ock fought smart and beat the crap out of him


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didn't he channel the rings power into his Chi or something?


Nope. IM said something about not wanting it to be a lopsided fight, and Temujin says something like "I agree" and drops all ten rings. He then rushes tony and starts pounding him, smashes holes in the armor, main power failing (which seems to happen constantly under Grell's pen), Tony gets off a few easily dodged repulsor blasts before being beaten half to death with no explanation of how Temujin was able to do it. Good Kung-Fu? Apperantly Temujin must have studied under Karate Kid from the Legion or something without it or any other sort of foundation for this having been mentioned in the plot. Come on! Iron-Fist couldn't have dominated Tony like that!

Tony was only saved when this Junkie-Pseudo-Chechen-Rebel-Cyborg-Chick busts in and tears up the place.


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Deathstroke kicking kyles ass...it was pathetic, why just stand there when u have the most powerful weapon in the universe?!!


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quote: (post)
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way back in 80's Langowski sasquatch (the one that lifts up battleships and tosses plane) gets beaten up physically (no gadgets tricks or other powers) by...

wait for it...


machine man!!! I can bench more this purple skeined gaybot.

i know strength is not the ultimated arbiter of who wins a fight - but it is one is fighting a proverbial gnat


Machine Man, in his mini series, also beat up the Iron Man of 2020, Arno Stark, who has about 90-100 times his strength. Pleeeaassee. Blame Tom DeFalco.

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Batman knocking out Carnage was full of sh!t.


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