bleh to much power man they would have to fight outside the multiverses maybe outside the omniverse anyway who wins i dont know the PF has been said to destroy and create the universes replacing even LT by Eternity himself was this said anyway the Spectre on the other hand has defeated all magic in the DCU........for now i say stalemate.
Well, the Logoz has been called "the physical manifestation of god", Hal called it "A piece of God itself". The Logoz itself described it as "A thought in Gods mind." and "Gods will". And Deadman, who also works for God, but who he knows as Ranma Kushna[sp?], found out that it was Spectre he was working for in Dead Again.
I still wouldn't equate him neccisarly to God, but, he's apperently the next best thing.
He is the Judge Jury and Excutioner of the Mutiverse that should be enough to a sure you of his powers. Better question is if He ain't all that he cracked up to be why has he been on the throne for so long?
Youre confusing role with power. All of what you said is LTs role but as we've seen his power is far from absolute. Hes had no conclusive high showings whilst hes also had a number of low showings which havent been explained away. In one of those showings he stated he didnt have the necessary power. Role is not enough.
Spectre volume 4 issue 4, Hal sees past the Wrath and finds The Logoz. The Wrath is just how the Universe has percieved The Logoz. And Hal's pure force of will is apperently great enough to hold these perceptions at bay. Through a lot of the rest of the series Hal says stuff like "with the power of the logoz I'll. . " bla bla, you get the idea. He spends an entire arc of the series going from place to place ascending from the sky in holy light and leading souls "home". The Spectre-force IS the Logoz however. The Spectre though, is a soul bonded to The Logoz, and I doubt anyone after Hal will have the will to get past the will of The Wrath[as this perception is so powerful it's nearly an entity onto itself.].
As long as he remains the Judge of the Muti Verse then there is no way of telling who's more powerful. All the abstract beings of the Marvel Comics came to LT during the Infinity Gauntlet no one else. When Adam Warlock tryed to do something against LT it didn't work granted he did have that power trusted to him but he had the power none the less. Until Phoenix or the inifinites or the TOAA toss him off that throne he is the law in Marvel Comics....
Straight out of that issue. Issue 4 of Spectre's series.
"I have not changed Hal -- you have! For at last you believe to the core of your being that there is hope... for yourself and the children of Earth. And in believing you have freed me from the tyranny of man's projections."
Hal: "This is your true face?"
"As best you can percieve it."
Hal: "Not a demon at all, you're a. . . a . . piece of God itself."
Then on page 14, for further backup..
"For far too long I have reflected darkness in the human heart. I have been everything they wanted me to be. For the moment at least, your belief has pierced the viel of The Wrath and revealed THE LOGOZ that lies beneath! But do you have the courage to continue seeing me this way? To overide the consensus of reality and embrace the possibilities of what you... what we... what the world...can become?"
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