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rogue on steroids vs wonderwoman

rogue is below wonder womans strength level. but if rogue has got some steroids on her with the strength she has at the moment you think she can take on WW ?


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rogue is about class 80. if shes got some steroids on her it will boost her up to a 100 so yah she has a chance there.


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rogue is about class 80. if shes got some steroids on her it will boost her up to a 100 so yah she has a chance there.

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Rogue class 80?....what?


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I thought Rogue at most was class 50. Even at class 100 she doesn't have WW's speed.


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rogue is about class 80. if shes got some steroids on her it will boost her up to a 100 so yah she has a chance there.
Ther is a few things wrong here. Umm I doubt steroids would really help her at all and even if it did a low class 100 is still way below WW and I mean way below. Plus I think Rouge is more of a class 50 isn't she I could be wrong with this last statement though.


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Handbook state she is class 50


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Rogue still wouldn't be able to beat WW. The only way she would is if she zapped the power out of someone like Juggernaut or Hulk or something.

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Rogue still wouldn't be able to beat WW. The only way she would is if she zapped the power out of someone like Juggernaut or Hulk or something.


She'd still be waaayyyy too slow to have a chance of beating WW. And there is still the issue of fighting skill and experience.


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Handbook state she is class 50
Thats what I thought. For Rouge to have a chance with WW she would have to try and take the speed from someone fast so she could grab WW and drain her.


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Steroids isn't gonna do a thing. These people are already superpowered. Steroids isn't gonna help much


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if rogue touches WW with her bear hands rogue would take her strength and give ww a taist of her own medicen


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if rogue touches WW with her bear hands rogue would take her strength and give ww a taist of her own medicen


If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass a- hoppin'.

The point of the matter is that Rogue will never touch WW because she is much...too....slow. Wonder Woman's speed is in the same league as Superman's and Flash's (but not equal to either of those, mind you).


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If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass a- hoppin'.

The point of the matter is that Rogue will never touch WW because she is much...too....slow. Wonder Woman's speed is in the same league as Superman's and Flash's (but not equal to either of those, mind you).


What happens if, with a punch of her own, WW makes contact with Rogue? Or does power absorption have to be conscious on Rogue's part (in which case, WW is probably safe)?


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If a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump its ass a- hoppin'.

The point of the matter is that Rogue will never touch WW because she is much...too....slow. Wonder Woman's speed is in the same league as Superman's and Flash's (but not equal to either of those, mind you).
if she touches ww for just a sec. she will get that if you dont know her powers silly


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What happens if, with a punch of her own, WW makes contact with Rogue? Or does power absorption have to be conscious on Rogue's part (in which case, WW is probably safe)?


Or still having her head attached to her body wink. Keep in mind that A) the combatants have at least a basic knowledge about each other's abilities and thus Wonder Woman would know skin-to-skin contact is a big no-no and B) Rogue's body is mostly covered by her costume so WW has a lot of places to safely hit Rogue.


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if rogue touches WW with her bear hands rogue would take her strength and give ww a taist of her own medicen


As I've said on another thread, for Rogue to put her bare (I believe you meant 'bare' not 'bear') hands on Wonderwoman so as to give her a taste (I believe you meant 'taste' not 'taist') of her own medicine (I believe .....ah, what the heck!), a significant facet would be in operation.
I.E, if Rogue can touch Wonderwoman, then Wonderwoman can also 'touch' Rogue .....and by touch I mean a punch that can pound monoliths to dust impacting at a velocity faster than the eye can see.

Rogue's absorption power is quite interesting since it can allow her to absorb the powers of MOST characters, the only problem is that she has to get close enough to use it. Close as in direct physical proximity.
This, obviously, implies that the character she is trying to leach energy from can also 'touch' her.
The question you need to ask yourself is if you would want characters like Wonderwoman, the Hulk, and Superman being able to 'touch' you .....particularly when your level of invulnerability is leagues beneath theirs.

For some reason I get flashes of what happened in the IC when someone tried to 'touch' Superboy Prime .....something to do with exploding cranial matter!


Anyways, back to Rogue on steroids.

First thing people need to do is look at Rogue's power set.
She is obviously very strong, has a strong measure of resilience (quasi invulnerability), can fly at a good clip, and depending on how/who writes her she has other powers at her behest (due to her absorption), which makes her quite varied in ability. To be honest she is one of the most omni-dimensional X-men since (when written as using all of he absorbed powers) she has a WHOLE lot of different tools at her disposal.
In many ways Rogue is slept on ......she is actually one of the few X-men who could join the JLA and not get laughed at.

Anyways .....that is another story for another day .....

The second thing people NEED to do in versus battles is to look at the opponent.
Often people only look at their favorite character (be he/she/it Superman, Spiderman, Thing, Wolverine, WolVenom lol, etc) and forget to look at the opponent.
The thing is this .....it doesn't matter how good your character is (even your favorite character), if his/her/its opponent is LEAGUES better.

Crude Analogy: It doesn't matter how fast your racing bicycle is, nor how often you have won the Tour de France with it, nor how space-age the frame is or how advanced the vulcanization process for your bicycle's tires was .....IF YOUR BICYCLE IS RACING AGAINST MY PORSCHE 911.
Your bicycle may be at the pinnacle of perfection .....a paragon of the perfect bike .....but against my car it is not just an automatic loser but it is, quite literally, worthless!

Many people tend to look only at their favorite characters (which is why you see some of the most idiotic threads concerning characters like Wolverine, who though great is simply not supposed to be put against 97-98% of the characters he is pitted against in KMC).

Going back to Rogue versus Wonderwoman.

The premise of this thread is that she has imbued 'steroids,' and is thus roided up and ready to take on Diana.
Alright ....for the Original Poster to make this thread, he must know Rogue pretty well.

The question is does he know Wonderwoman as well?
IF he knew her he would know that the only way Rogue can beat her is through severe PIS/CIS, or if Rogue manages to absorb the powers of some seriously potent character (and even then Rogue would still have her hands full since Wonderwoman is not only powerful but she is one of the most skilled fighters in DC).

Anyways, here is the Wonderwoman Respect thread .....have a look at some of the things Wonderwoman has done, and ask yourself just what level of efficacy Rogue would have against her ....even if Rogue took more steroids than the entire 2005 steroid abuse level of the American Baseball League!

Here is the respect thread: Wonderwoman Respect Thread


Anyways .....Rogue can defeat Wonderwoman. Even without 'steroids.' smile
The only problem is that for this to happen Wonderwoman would have to basically agree to throw the fight i.e the Porsche would have to simply not race and thus allow the bicycle to cycle past.
Make it into a real battle and Rogue might as well hang herself.


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As I've said on another thread, for Rogue to put her bare (I believe you meant 'bare' not 'bear') hands on Wonderwoman so as to give her a taste (I believe you meant 'taste' not 'taist') of her own medicine (I believe .....ah, what the heck!), a significant facet would be in operation.
I.E, if Rogue can touch Wonderwoman, then Wonderwoman can also 'touch' Rogue .....and by touch I mean a punch that can pound monoliths to dust impacting at a velocity faster than the eye can see.

Rogue's absorption power is quite interesting since it can allow her to absorb the powers of MOST characters, the only problem is that she has to get close enough to use it. Close as in direct physical proximity.
This, obviously, implies that the character she is trying to leach energy from can also 'touch' her.
The question you need to ask yourself is if you would want characters like Wonderwoman, the Hulk, and Superman being able to 'touch' you .....particularly when your level of invulnerability is leagues beneath theirs.

For some reason I get flashes of what happened in the IC when someone tried to 'touch' Superboy Prime .....something to do with exploding cranial matter!


Anyways, back to Rogue on steroids.

First thing people need to do is look at Rogue's power set.
She is obviously very strong, has a strong measure of resilience (quasi invulnerability), can fly at a good clip, and depending on how/who writes her she has other powers at her behest (due to her absorption), which makes her quite varied in ability. To be honest she is one of the most omni-dimensional X-men since (when written as using all of he absorbed powers) she has a WHOLE lot of different tools at her disposal.
In many ways Rogue is slept on ......she is actually one of the few X-men who could join the JLA and not get laughed at.

Anyways .....that is another story for another day .....

The second thing people NEED to do in versus battles is to look at the opponent.
Often people only look at their favorite character (be he/she/it Superman, Spiderman, Thing, Wolverine, WolVenom lol, etc) and forget to look at the opponent.
The thing is this .....it doesn't matter how good your character is (even your favorite character), if his/her/its opponent is LEAGUES better.

Crude Analogy: It doesn't matter how fast your racing bicycle is, nor how often it has won the Tour de France, nor how space-age the frame is or how advanced the vulcanization process in your bicycle's tires are .....IF YOUR BICYCLE IS RACING AGAINST MY PORSCHE 911.
Your bicycle may be at the pinnacle of perfection .....a paragon of the perfect bike .....but against my car it is not just an automatic loser but it is, quite literally, worthless!

Many people tend to look only at their favorite characters (which is why you see some of the most idiotic threads concerning characters like Wolverine, who though great is simply not supposed to be put against 97-98% of the characters he is pitted against in KMC).

Going back to Rogue versus Wonderwoman.

The premise of this thread is that she has imbued 'steroids,' and is thus roided up and ready to take on Diana.
Alright ....for the Original Poster to make this thread, he must know Rogue pretty well (and since his avatar is Venom I can assume he is a Marvel fan, and thus he must know Rogue quite well).

The question is does he know Wonderwoman as well?
IF he knew her he would know that the only way Rogue can beat her is through severe PIS/CIS, or if Rogue manages to absorb the powers of some seriously potent character (and even then Rogue would still have her hands full since Wonderwoman is not only powerful but she is one of the most skilled fighters in DC).

Anyways, here is the Wonderwoman Respect thread .....have a look at some of the things Wonderwoman has done, and ask yourself just what level of efficacy Rogue would have against her ....even if Rogue took more steroids than the entire 2005 steroid abuse level of the American Baseball League!

Here is the respect thread: Wonderwoman Respect Thread


Anyways .....Rogue can defeat Wonderwoman. Even without 'steroids.' smile
The only problem is that for this to happen Wonderwoman would have to basically agree to throw the fight i.e the Porsche would have to simply not race and thus allow the bicycle to cycle past.
Make it into a real battle and Rogue might as well hang herself.
rogue doesnt have to be really close to her to absorb WWs powers. just once touch for leson than 2 secs. and shes got her powers. and shes got her steroids so there shes above WW


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