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Superman vs GL Kyle..........Winks at Vally

Which hero wins?? The Man of Steel, or the Emerald Gladiator??

Sep 18th, 2006 04:19 AM

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Superman. IMO the only standard GLs that can take a majority over Superman are Hal and John.

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Superman. IMO the only standard GLs that can take a majority over Superman are Hal and John.

Nooooooo john would get obliterated. Kyle is waay more powerful than John Stewart

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Nooooooo john would get obliterated. Kyle is waay more powerful than John Stewart

I doubt that. IMO Hal > John > Kyle > Guy (Tho potential-wise Guy is actually the most powerful which he showed in Recharge.) John Stewart has actually beaten Hal in one-on-one confrontations before.

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Sep 18th, 2006 05:14 AM

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John already put him down in Rebirth.

Kyle is easily a match for Superman.

Unless your version of Kyle still has that ugly face guard type mask??

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I doubt that. IMO Hal > John > Kyle > Guy (Tho potential-wise Guy is actually the most powerful which he showed in Recharge.) John Stewart has actually beaten Hal in one-on-one confrontations before.

I always knew Hal was the strongest because of his will but I always thought kyle was second.

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Superman. IMO the only standard GLs that can take a majority over Superman are Hal and John.

lol John couldn't see supes movement........ his best willed construct couldn't hold Superman. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Any GL can beat Superman if they start using some of their powers they have shown rather than just basic construct.

Superman does have speed at his side.

In comic Superman can give any GL (and has) a good fight

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I always knew Hal was the strongest because of his will but I always thought kyle was second.

Nope. John is second. Then Kyle. Then Guy. But when Guy actually goes all out and actually takes it seriously, he's probly the most powerful, leaving Kyle last (other than Kilowog).

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Nope. John is second. Then Kyle. Then Guy. But when Guy actually goes all out and actually takes it seriously, he's probly the most powerful, leaving Kyle last (other than Kilowog).

Kyle last?

John second? eek!

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Sep 18th, 2006 05:21 AM

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I doubt that. IMO Hal > John > Kyle > Guy (Tho potential-wise Guy is actually the most powerful which he showed in Recharge.) John Stewart has actually beaten Hal in one-on-one confrontations before.

Let me guess, JLU?

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Let me guess, you judge this off of JLU?

Nope, i dont even watch that. (Thats the show right?)

And Kg thats called jobbing on John's part. If you wanna count jobbing, we can also count Wonder Man busting through Kyle's shields since JLA/Avengers is canon.

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Nope, i dont even watch that. (Thats the show right?)

And Kg thats called jobbing on John's part. If you wanna count jobbing, we can also count Wonder Man busting through Kyle's shields since JLA/Avengers is canon.

You count that? eek!

I guess you haven't seen Kyle fight Parallax?

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Nope, i dont even watch that. (Thats the show right?)

And Kg thats called jobbing on John's part. If you wanna count jobbing, we can also count Wonder Man busting through Kyle's shields since JLA/Avengers is canon.

we can't sorry lol.

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You count that?

I guess you haven't seen Kyle fight Parallax?

If you count John's jobbing to Superman, then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man. And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence? Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence. And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well. I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages. Either way, it's not something John could not have done.

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If you count John's jobbing to Superman, then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man. And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence? Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence. And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well. I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages. Either way, it's not something John could not have done.

few things didn't work out in JLA/Avenger.

They trashed Kyle like a newb.

WM pawnage , his energy getting jacked did I miss something?

and Superman has done feats of strength capable of breaking construct since it happens in regular basis

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If you count John's jobbing to Superman,

I haven't seen John do to many things, that would count that as jobbing.

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then i count Kyle's jobbing to Wonder Man.

So your comparing a big bang to Wonder Man?

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And whats wrong with counting JLA/Avengers as valid evidence?

Because the whole thing was pis! I bet you think that Storm would beat Wonder Woman!

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Both companies have referred to it on panel as canon evidence.

Not Marvel, please try again after the beap!

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And Kyle fighting Parallax was a good showing, and he didnt even do that well.

No, he didn't stand up to a major force that was able to fight Spectre. roll eyes (sarcastic)

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I have scans of both fights. Neither one of them did he do anything impressive other than lasting a few pages.

And this is bad?? laughing

I don't think you realize how powerful Parallax is/was.
But you also think Classic Ion was below Galactus...

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Either way, it's not something John could not have done.

Show me anything that would even remotely support what you have just said there.

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Sep 18th, 2006 05:39 AM

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John > Kyle?

Funny stuff.

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I haven't seen John do to many things, that would count that as jobbing.

So your comparing a big bang to Wonder Man?

Because the whole thing was pis! I bet you think that Storm would beat Wonder Woman!

Not Marvel, please try again after the beap!

No, he didn't stand up to a major force that was able to fight Spectre.

And this is bad?? I don't think you realize how powerful Parallax is/was.
But you also think Classic Ion was below Galactus...

Show me anything that would even remotely support what you have just said there.

Im not comparing Wondy to a big bang. Thats why im calling it jobbing. Cuz whether you like it or not, it still happened.

Storm beat Wonder Woman in DC vs MArvel. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. DC vs Marvel was not considered canon. JLA/Avengers was.

What did Classic Ion ever do that put him at Full Power Galactus level? Do you realize that at Full Power, Galactus = Eternity? So therefore, show me some evidence that shows that Classic Ion was more powerful than the Living Embodiment of the main Marvel Universe.

Anyways im goin to bed i got work tomorrow at 6 and it's already almost 2. Nite guys. Cya tomorrow

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Classic Ion had the option of going back in time, and undoing everything that Hal did as Parallax.
Parallax who rewrote the universe??
When has Galactus done as much??

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Im not comparing Wondy to a big bang. Thats why im calling it jobbing. Cuz whether you like it or not, it still happened.

Then why bring it up?
I don't like Wolverine stabbing Thanos, am I just supposed to roll over and take it in the tailpipe?

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Storm beat Wonder Woman in DC vs MArvel. TOTALLY DIFFERENT. DC vs Marvel was not considered canon. JLA/Avengers was.

It wasn't canon to Marvel. Plus I'm pointing out how much shit crossovers are for your main arguements.

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What did Classic Ion ever do that put him at Full Power Galactus level? Do you realize that at Full Power, Galactus = Eternity? So therefore, show me some evidence that shows that Classic Ion was more powerful than the Living Embodiment of the main Marvel Universe.

So does that mean that Ion, can rewrite Eternity?
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Anyways im goin to bed i got work tomorrow at 6 and it's already almost 2. Nite guys. Cya tomorrow

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