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spiderman vs longshot


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50/50 for each.


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why 50/50


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50/50 for each.


Why cant you ever say that spiderman would lose a battle or that someone would get the majority over him. Is it hard for you to do that.


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Brick falls on Spideys head or his web shooter doesnt work for some reason.

Longshot ftw


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Longshot powers.
http://www.marveldatabase.com/Longshot_%28Mojoverse%29


I like em both


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I think that longshot is as agile (or could be more agile than spiderman, everything about him is superhuman.) and I actually think that he is faster than spiderman and just as strong as spiderman. Longshot could take this 10/10 if hes using his luck powers but if it is turned off, which Im hoping that it is, then I see it going 6/10 or 7/10 long shot way due to the fact that he has everything spiderman has but he is the better fighter out of the two and has been trained his entire life.


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Wait....

Where are these speed feats of Longshot's that make him faster than Spidey?

When has Longshot lifted a train?


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Why cant you ever say that spiderman would lose a battle or that someone would get the majority over him. Is it hard for you to do that.


Because in this case, Longshot is not guaranteed a majority here. And neither is Spider-Man. Longshot's powers are impressive and have helped him considerably over the years. But they also don't always work either. By altering probabilities, he actually also has the chance to give himself bad luck as well. His whole power is based on chance. And because of that, his victory is not guaranteed. I do know what I'm talking about.

There have been plenty of times in which I've said Spider-Man loses the majority. It's not my fault you haven't seen them. erm


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I think that longshot is as agile (or could be more agile than spiderman, everything about him is superhuman.) and I actually think that he is faster than spiderman and just as strong as spiderman. Longshot could take this 10/10 if hes using his luck powers but if it is turned off, which Im hoping that it is, then I see it going 6/10 or 7/10 long shot way due to the fact that he has everything spiderman has but he is the better fighter out of the two and has been trained his entire life.


HAH! eek!

And you're judging me? After reading this, it's clear that you don't know a damn thing about Longshot. sad


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Spidey with a slight majority


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HAH! eek!

And you're judging me? After reading this, it's clear that you don't know a damn thing about Longshot. sad


Im going by stats that i have seen on both long shot and spiderman. In a xmen handbook that i own, it has long strength range 1-7 at 4, where spiderman is, it dont mean that he is stronger than spiderman but he is up there. It also have spiderman speed at 3 and longshots at 4. durability is the same but longshot have the fighting ability advantage. His fighting ability is at 5 and spiderman is at 4.


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Wait....

Where are these speed feats of Longshot's that make him faster than Spidey?

When has Longshot lifted a train?


When have he needed to lift a train. I have seen him pick up mojo (who weighs a ton) and throw him across the room with ease but when I look at bio's it always state that his strength is unknown.


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When have he needed to lift a train. I have seen him pick up mojo (who weighs a ton) and throw him across the room with ease but when I look at bio's it always state that his strength is unknown.


A single ton? Big. ****ing. Deal.

Spiderman's tossed Hondas without breaking a sweat. He's thrown tens of tons. There is not a damn thing to make me believe Longshot is even close to Spiderman's strength level.


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A single ton? Big. ****ing. Deal.

Spiderman's tossed Hondas without breaking a sweat. He's thrown tens of tons. There is not a damn thing to make me believe Longshot is even close to Spiderman's strength level.


I didnt struggle to throw mojo and I dont think that he is stronger than spiderman but who knows. Marvel themselves dont even know longshot strength, they keep saying that it is unknown but he never needed a reason to display any lifting feets just like juggernaut have never needed a reason to display and lifting feets. Lets put it like this, in the ultimate universe it is stated that lady deathstrike is indestructible but he breaks her neck. Thats all I can go by right now but he havent been in enough comics to show anything yet.


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Im going by stats that i have seen on both long shot and spiderman. In a xmen handbook that i own, it has long strength range 1-7 at 4, where spiderman is, it dont mean that he is stronger than spiderman but he is up there. It also have spiderman speed at 3 and longshots at 4. durability is the same but longshot have the fighting ability advantage. His fighting ability is at 5 and spiderman is at 4.



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What was that for. Maybe i was wrong but you could let me know so that I wont make the same mistake in the future. Are you trying to say that I shouldnt go by handbooks.


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What was that for. Maybe i was wrong but you could let me know so that I wont make the same mistake in the future. Are you trying to say that I shouldnt go by handbooks.


No shit.


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Im going by stats that i have seen on both long shot and spiderman. In a xmen handbook that i own, it has long strength range 1-7 at 4, where spiderman is, it dont mean that he is stronger than spiderman but he is up there. It also have spiderman speed at 3 and longshots at 4. durability is the same but longshot have the fighting ability advantage. His fighting ability is at 5 and spiderman is at 4.


The only thing correct about all that is the fighting ability one.

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When have he needed to lift a train. I have seen him pick up mojo (who weighs a ton) and throw him across the room with ease but when I look at bio's it always state that his strength is unknown.


Where was Mojo's weight ever directly mentioned? Looking him up on a few different sites, they all say his weight is unknown.

Regardless, Longshot has NEVER been shown to have any sort of superhuman strength. Hell, he's probably not even peak human in strength.

Nor speed.

Nor endurance.

Nor durability.

Etc.

He DOES, however, have Daredevil-like agility.

He DOES have incredible aim.

He DOES have decent fighting skills.


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No shit.


Well after today, that would be my last resort but what do you all go by, actual feats.


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