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616 Wolverine Vs. Ultimate Captain America

He can take having his heart cut out.

He can take being frozen for almost 60 years in a block of ice.

Who wins?

Apr 12th, 2007 10:33 PM

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It's been done. Ultimate Cap hasn't done anything that'd guarantee him the win of 616 Cap, much less Wolverine.

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It's been done. Ultimate Cap hasn't done anything that'd guarantee him the win of 616 Cap, much less Wolverine.

He beat alien nazis in 1945 alone.

Apr 12th, 2007 10:40 PM

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It's been done. Ultimate Cap hasn't done anything that'd guarantee him the win of 616 Cap, much less Wolverine.

Agreed.

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Agreed.

Why?

Explain why setting an alien war effort back 60 years all by himself isn't a feat please.

Apr 12th, 2007 10:50 PM

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He can take having his heart cut out.

He can take being frozen for almost 60 years in a block of ice.

Who wins?

logan

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It's been done. Ultimate Cap hasn't done anything that'd guarantee him the win of 616 Cap, much less Wolverine.

Surely as an unknown quantity your argument means we have no evidence 616 Wolverine can beat him either. As you can't state how good/bad he is for a comparison.

Apr 12th, 2007 10:53 PM

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logan

Why?

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Surely as an unknown quantity your argument means we have no evidence 616 Wolverine can beat him either. As you can't state how good/bad he is for a comparison.

Apr 12th, 2007 10:55 PM

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Surely as an unknown quantity your argument means we have no evidence 616 Wolverine can beat him either. As you can't state how good/bad he is for a comparison.

*laughs*

Nice logical fallacy there.

Say a new character is introduced. He only has one appearance. All he does is lift a car, toss it, and he's never seen from again.

Do we assume that his character is A) Incapable of lifting a car, B) Capable of lifting and throwing a car, or C) Capable of overpowering the Hulk?

If your argument is "Well, we don't know how good he might be, so....maybe he CAN!" then...well...you're at the wrong place to be debating.

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Logan doesn't need a shotgun to kill Cap.

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Originally posted by Soljer
*laughs*

Nice logical fallacy there.

Say a new character is introduced. He only has one appearance. All he does is lift a car, toss it, and he's never seen from again.

Do we assume that his character is A) Incapable of lifting a car, B) Capable of lifting and throwing a car, or C) Capable of overpowering the Hulk?

If your argument is "Well, we don't know how good he might be, so....maybe he CAN!" then...well...you're at the wrong place to be debating.

Well we do know he beat the aliens and nazis, took out Giant man instantly, went toe to toe with a very savage Hulk for a while the same Hulk who tore Ultimate Wolverine in two. So it's a little more than lifting a car. It's more a "more feats needed to make a valid judgement".

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He did not go toe to toe with the Hulk, he dropped a tank on him, threw in some cheap shots and then the Hulk grabbed him and it was over. Wolverine has had many feats that wuld prove he could take out Ultimate Cap.

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Why?

Explain why setting an alien war effort back 60 years all by himself isn't a feat please.

He has good feats just not superior. Him fighting an army by himself big whupp. 616 Cap has done so.

So maybe you need to show scans of this superior feat.

Apr 13th, 2007 12:43 AM

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Well we do know he beat the aliens and nazis, took out Giant man instantly

And 616 Cap beat aliens and nazis. Giant Man he hurt him but took him out with Girders in a long fight. Plus Giant Man isn't your most effective combatant.

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, went toe to toe with a very savage Hulk for a while the same Hulk who tore Ultimate Wolverine in two. So it's a little more than lifting a car. It's more a "more feats needed to make a valid judgement".

Toe to toe. Did you even look at the fight.

A. Hulk was vomiting and was hurt from Ironman.

B. They calmed him down with Wasp.

C. Dropped a tank on him.

Then U.Cap got some shots on him and then U.Cap was immediately taken down and helpless after said shots. And your call this going toe to toe.

Apr 13th, 2007 12:48 AM

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He did not go toe to toe with the Hulk, he dropped a tank on him, threw in some cheap shots and then the Hulk grabbed him and it was over. Wolverine has had many feats that wuld prove he could take out Ultimate Cap.

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap3yz5.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cap4zv8.jpg

Yeah like making Hulk bleed with out his claws wait oops.

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give cap a strong combat knife to go along with his shield.
most batman types would go down hard.
cap tries not to kill,but if he did man o man would that be awsome!

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wolverine wins what ultimate capt gunna do to his superior

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wolverine wins what ultimate capt gunna do to his superior

not in strength...(wants capt it up to take this argument so he can pwn him...again)

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He has good feats just not superior. Him fighting an army by himself big whupp. 616 Cap has done so.

So maybe you need to show scans of this superior feat.

I don't use scans as this site is seriously breaking copyright. That aside he set an alien war effort back sixty years, care to dispute that?

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He did not go toe to toe with the Hulk, he dropped a tank on him, threw in some cheap shots and then the Hulk grabbed him and it was over. Wolverine has had many feats that wuld prove he could take out Ultimate Cap.

I've never seen any version of wolverine drop a tank on anyone. I have seen Molly from the Runaways amongst others punk him though. Perhaps the most recent punking was with the wrecker in New Avengers. Damn Wolverine gets punked a lot, I guess that's one of his powers?

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not in strength...(wants capt it up to take this argument so he can pwn him...again)

Agreed. This isn't one of those Logan pwns1010101010101 boards is it?

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This isn't one of those Logan pwns1010101010101 boards is it?

We've got our share of those guys but the majority here aren't of that mindset.

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