Fairly positive I never read "Shiver". But I don't follow Venom that closely, or I haven't in the last little while. If you like though, I could check it out, or ask someone who would know.
Pete and Harry all the way.
The end to that movie almost made me want Harry to come back to life in the comics just so they could team up form time to time.
Almost.
I would love to see an alternate version of Harry at his full heroic potential end up in 616 and have to battle Norman.
That'd be so sweet. Like Alexander Luther vs Lex in DC. Only I'd of course want the alternate Harry to totally own and humiliate Norman.
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But that's the thing. He CAN cheap shot Spidey if he feels like it. Spiderman SERIOUSLY relies on his spider sense, and as Venom's immune to it....it give him a SERIOUS advantage - even if we are assuming that Venom ISN'T faster or stronger than Pete.
I'd give more than a meager edge to Venom against Parker.
Venom fought Peter three times, IIRC- once, when Peter was talking to MJ, and he cheapshotted Parker. Twice, when Peter was jumping up to rescue MJ, and he cheapshotted Parker. Thrice, once Spidey was already worn down from battling everybody, and he reached down and grabbed him. Also, that was in the middle of a construction building, where the fight wouldn't be taking place. So there was no maneuverability. In an open-air environment, Spidey could match Venom.
Also, Parker didn't really rely on his Spider sense at all in the movie. They seemed to forget about it. Little things like being hit with a spit ball at the beginning, to being side swiped by Harry partway through off his moped.
So, all of his dodging feats and crap like that were really all him, no spider sense. So, the parker that you see throughout the movie wouldn't have much of a disadvantage in this fight.
Sry, I gotta disagree with ya on that one. A bloodlusted Venom would be more than capable of beating Doc Ock who was shown to have no durability enhancement or HF like the Goblins and Spidey. All he'd have to do is web him up from a distance and then eat his brains out.
And also, the only reason Spidey can beat Venom is because of the symbiote's vulnerabilities- fire and sound. Otherwise, as you saw, Venom royally owned Spiderman hand-to-hand. Yes, there were some cheap shots, but still, thats the power of the symbiote(and it has a weakness I know ) and like when they fought in the air, Venom was def taking the majority if there were judges with score cards present in mid-air I saw Venom get 3 really nice licks on him while Spidey got 0.
Also, I forgot to add: was that an incendiary bomb Spidey used on Venom or the same kinda atom disintegrator Norman used to take out the board of directors in SM 1? Cuz I wouldnt think that the symbiote would be THAT vulnerable to fire considering Pete and Harry both got blown up in the face with one and didnt even come close to dying.
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Movie Battle: Doc Ock/Venom vs. Spider-Man/Goblin II
May 13th, 2007 06:30 AM
But hey, about those Venom Graphic novels I PM'ed u about, do u happen to know if Eddie Brock was Venom in that one called 'Shiver'?
) and like when they fought in the air, Venom was def taking the majority if there were judges with score cards present in mid-air 
