unless Reed can think of a way really quick to prevent SS exploiting Superman's weaknesses...then SS wins. If SS can't exploit Superman's weaknesses....then Supes' can do this by himself.
No PIS...Supes can probably dodge most of Surfer's blasts...and transmuting DNA...well...that would be a problem...that's where Reed has to come in for the protection.
If Reed could get it down to just a slugfest or so....Supes would rock Surfer every day of the week.
The Surfer can take Superman without exploiting his weaknesses. It wouldn't be a stomp of a fight, but Norrin need not use Red Sun Radiation nor Kryptonite to win.
Surfer couldn't take away Superman's powers...he can exploit his weaknesses...and depower Superman. Kind of like Magneto fighting Kurse, i would say...SS can just drain Superman. Only way for Supes to really win is if it was merely a slugfest.
Nah...Surfer couldn't alter Superman's form...as far as I know.
yeah...but isn't Supes' becoming more immune to Kryptonite now. I know that Superman flew through a red sun...and was still powerful enough to take out SBP.
The Silver Surfer wields the "Power Cosmic," absorbing and manipulating the universe's cosmic energy, and is almost totally indestructible. He can navigate through space, hyperspace, and dimensional barriers, and he can fly at near-limitless speeds on his board, entering hyperspace when he exceeds light speed.[39] He has even proven capable of time travel on occasion.[40] The Surfer, who sustains himself by converting matter into energy, does not require food, drink, air, or sleep. He is immune to extreme temperatures and most radiation, and he can survive in vacuum environments such as outer space and hyperspace. He can analyze and manipulate matter and energy, and restructure or animate matter at will, even transmuting elements.[41]
He can heal living beings, though he cannot raise the dead.[39] He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions,[42] fire energy blasts, form manipulate energy constructs, absorb and discharge most forms of energy, and phase through solid matter.[39]
His senses enable him to detect objects and energies light years away and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail.[41] The Surfer can even see through time, and with concentration he can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity. He has demonstrated limited telepathic ability on occasion and has proven able to influence human emotion and sensation.[39]
The Surfer's board is composed of the same impervious, cosmic-powered silvery material as its master's skin and is mentally linked to the Surfer. It moves in response to his thoughts even when he is not in physical contact with it.[41] The board is almost totally indestructible, but on those rare occasions when it is damaged or destroyed, the Surfer is able to repair or even re-create it.[20] The Surfer can attack opponents remotely by directing the board against them, and the board is capable of absorbing and imprisoning other beings, at least temporarily.[43]
As mentioned above, when Galactus exiled the Surfer to Earth, his means of imprisonment was linked to the board. When Surfer and the Fantastic Four realized this, Surfer put it to the test by leaving the board planet-side and entering space in the Four's spacecraft. Once he was free of Earth, the Surfer remotely converted the board to energy, recalled it to him, and reformed it in space
if he goes by how he is writen he could do alot of damage to any one
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yep, it would be hard work but, I'm just using the kryptonite self-transmutation as an example of what he could do.
Surfer is an energy and matter manipulator on a global scale (at the very least), so there's other things he might to.
if, and I'm not really sure about this, he can transmute Superman, then game over there and then.
he can definitely blast superman with enough energies to knock him out - busting planets is something Surfer does effortlessly (literally on a whim) and his raw strength is just unkown (but his durability must be well up there - deep space, hyperspace, blackholes, event horizons...).