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Galan007
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Cosmic Extant vs. MJJ

For the duration of this battle, Extant will have the Worlogog/MC.

And this is 616 MJJ.

Who takes it?

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Any thoughts?

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Any thoughts?

I know ol' Jimmy in and out,

but CE is a mystery to me,

tell me the big things he can do or is capable of,

then we'll compare them. smile

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I know ol' Jimmy in and out,

but CE is a mystery to me,

tell me the big things he can do or is capable of,

then we'll compare them.

He's a God. Pretty much undefeatable even by entropy which is Teh uber in marvel and DC.

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entropy which is Teh uber in marvel

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If Cosmic Extant has superhuman reactions then he beats Jaspers no prob. smile

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I know ol' Jimmy in and out,

but CE is a mystery to me,

tell me the big things he can do or is capable of,

then we'll compare them.

Extant no longer has a past, and thus cannot be exploited in that manner, he is composed of pure entropic energy, converged and manipulated multiple timelines, created a universe and everything in it from scratch, etc etc.

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Doesn't think kinda become time vs time?

Jaspers at his peak was the entire 616 universe so he'd beaten Eternity. I may be wrong but if there's no Eternity the universe goes poof right? So Jaspers must have taken that position meaning he had control of time (and space).

So is the Whirlygig powerful enough in TimeManip to out do eternity?

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So is the Whirlygig powerful enough in TimeManip to out do eternity?

Most certainly.

Extant actually created a Universe from nothingness. He didn't just manipulate something that was already there.

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Most certainly.

Extant actually created a Universe from nothingness. He didn't just manipulate something that was already there.

Then I think he has a good advantage here.

Nothing Jaspers has done is on that level (at least nothing I know of).

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't think kinda become time vs time?

Jaspers at his peak was the entire 616 universe so he'd beaten Eternity. I may be wrong but if there's no Eternity the universe goes poof right? So Jaspers must have taken that position meaning he had control of time (and space).

So is the Whirlygig powerful enough in TimeManip to out do eternity?

Jaspers 616 never did that. While he is officially considered capable of doing so based on the feats of his alternate universe counterpart, Jaspers 616 only ever became one with the universe and created a global scale warp as illustrated on panel and as stated in the handbook.

Unless the threadmaker states that Jaspers is allowed prep time to apply his power to himself to make his physicality more than human, then if Cosmic Extant does indeed have superhuman reaction as standard, then Cosmic Extant wins 10/10

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Most certainly.

Extant actually created a Universe from nothingness. He didn't just manipulate something that was already there.

Cool. Where did this happen? I wouldnt mind reading about this.

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Jaspers 616 never did that. While he is officially considered capable of doing so based on the feats of his alternate universe counterpart, Jaspers 616 only ever became one with the universe and created a global scale warp as illustrated on panel and as stated in the handbook.

Unless the threadmaker states that Jaspers is allowed prep time to apply his power to himself to make his physicality more than human, then if Cosmic Extant does indeed have superhuman reaction as standard, then Cosmic Extant wins 10/10

If he was one with the universe wouldn't he have taken the place of Eternity/Infinity by default?

I assume that the thread means Jaspers at the height of his power

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Originally posted by Galan007
Most certainly.

Extant actually created a Universe from nothingness. He didn't just manipulate something that was already there.

Doesn't necessarily make him more powerful than Jaspers though.

Merlyn was able to create Realities from scratch, manipulate Time on all corners, fuse the Omniverse into crystals he had jurisdiction over and as we know, he still wasn't powerful enough stop Jaspers.

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Not to mention that any plans/schemes Jaspers may have, Extant would know about.

In fact, Extant would have an eternity to prepare:

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If he was one with the universe wouldn't he have taken the place of Eternity/Infinity by default?

I assume that the thread means Jaspers at the height of his power

Don't waste your time.

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Not to mention that any plans/schemes Jaspers may have, Extant would know about.

In fact, Extant would have an eternity to prepare:

Time is not relative to someone who controls Reality.

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If he was one with the universe wouldn't he have taken the place of Eternity/Infinity by default?

I assume that the thread means Jaspers at the height of his power

Nope. Being one with the universe, just means hes attuned to it. Many cosmics do it, from Genis, Watcher, to the Contemplator. At no point was a supplantation of Eternity depicted or stated in any Marvel source.

616 Jaspers at the height of his power on panel warped the planet as far as we were shown on panel and as stated in the handbooks. While it is the official line that he was capable of much much more based on what his alternate universe counterpart could do and the word of Roma, he never actually did anything to match his counterpart on panel.

Regardless, without prep time given to Jaspers he dies.

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Doesn't necessarily make him more powerful than Jaspers though.

Meh,

If left unchecked, Extant's Universe would sprial backwards in time... This action alone would have taken out the main Universe in DC.

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Time is not relative to someone who controls Reality.

Jaspers never displayed any big time manipulation feats.

I won't just assume he could have done more. smile

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