Thanos for the win. DS and Thanos used to be equal but they aren't right now. Well have to wait and see just what DS is coming up with and how powerful he will become in this upcoming crisis to see if he comes back as a threat like he used to be.
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DS has already surpassed thanos. When has thanos ever pwned two planets full of Gods on his own? When has thanos been able to pwn an avatar of death? Or create a planet all his own inside a black hole? and sustain an atmosphere and even a sun and moon? when has thanos been able to create multiple realities? Or wave his hand and pwn a being as powerful as Orion or Firestorm? thanos needs power ups to do any of those things.
Well I agree with a lot of this, only thing is when Thanos fights his brains is what usually gets him the win (not saying DS is dumb). Beating LT and Eternity, beings that should have stopped him way before he got the Heart, that is bad writing or just shows how lax they are, comeon Marvel doing it just to put Thanos as a hero...
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bad writing. becuz marvel said the LT was omnipotent, but then he can't fix the flaw? OMG. Then Eternity is supposed to know all that will happen, but didn't stop thanos from getting the IG or the heart? Some all knowing omnipotent beings.
Dude, this is BS. Thanos has handled the likes Of The Silver Surfer, Thor, Thing, has shown he can hang with a being named Tyrant, a guy who is near Galactus league. Thanos was taking blasts from that guy - and giving it right back. He held his own against ODIN of all people - a being who has shaken the GALAXY with his power - and got up for more. He took a hit from Magnus when he had 5 of the infinity gems, and was nearly god. In fact, the only person in his entire existence to truly defeat him, is Thor. Thor, who he has also layed low, and it was even hinted he didn't give his all in that fight.
Darkseid was laid out in 2 blows from Doomsday. Wolverine could have taken what Doomsday dished out to him. For real. He blasted the Surfer with his overhyped "omega beams" and he was right back up. Orion kicked his ass quite convincingly, Superman recently dropped hammers down on him, and his beams couldn't even get thru kevlar (Anarky) if I remember correctly.
Thanos controls his body on a molecular level, is a better figher than Darkseid, more durable, and in a fight - Thanos would crush him.
I'd really like to see someone argue on Darkseid's behalf. Because everyoen who does, does it from a biased standpoint, and can't counter most of what I just laid out.
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Hmm. Definitely a close one. Since this is a clash between immortals, a battle this evenly matched would probably last for years, if not eons. But if I were a gambling man (which I'm not), my money would be on Thanos of Titan.
Let's look at the matchups:
Intelligence: Darkseid is one of the most brilliant schemers in the DCU. Doesn't matter. Thanos has outwitted the Magus twice, beaten the Grandmaster on his home turf, and tricked Mephisto at least once. If this battle is one of long-term strategy, Darkseid loses.
Power: While Darkseid is arguably more powerful (especially if we're using the King's Darkseid), the power difference isn't all that significant. The Omega Effect will not be a factor, since Thanos is simply too powerful. If all they're doing is tossing around energy bolts, Darkseid has the advantage, but that's not how the battle will go.
Fighting Skills: Darkseid is a skilled warrior (he has to be to take on Orion in single combat), but Thanos overtakes him here. Thanos personally trained Gamora, who is at least one of the top five martial artists in the Marvel Universe. Thanos has at least held his own with the finest warriors of Asgard. If Thanos turns this into a hand-to-hand fight, Darkseid will be fighting at a heavy disadvantage.
Speed: Darkseid can cope with Flash-level speeds, but Thanos has repeatedly slaughtered the Silver Surfer in open combat. Too close to call.
Endurance: Thanos has fought *Odin*. In *Asgard*. And held him almost to a standstill. Name me one occasion where Darkseid has even matched this. Keep in mind also that Thanos cannot die, because Death banned him from her realm. Darkseid is going to have real problems keeping Thanos down.
Crossovers: Yes, Thanos was in the god-awful "Infinity Crusade". But at least he had enough sense not to show his craggy face in "Genesis", "Rock of Ages", and the colossally idiotic "Our Worlds at Bore" fiasco.
Conclusion: Thanos spanks Darkseid like Bill Jemas on a hot date with Elektra.
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Thanos won't lose from his subconscious. Thanos only loses subconsciously when he just kicked the hell outta everyone earlier and got bored. When Thanos fights for good or as a test, his complex doesn't affect him. And even though he has a complex, Darkseid has a bigger complex. It's the I-have-a-kickass-power-but-why-can't-I-kill-dumber-and-weaker-opponents-like-Superman-complex. Thanos has beaten and could kill, easily, the best guys in the Marvel U. (like Silver Surfer) with his bare hands. And Thanos can't die anyway. He probably can't get obliterated either cuz of that Living Tribunal ruling involving the Infinity Gems. Besides, the Omega Beams are Darkseid's greatest strength whereas Thanos' greatest strength is his brain and that just sounds cooler than some stupid gimmick that writers have to work around lest they don't want their characters to die. In the end, although Darkseid is a pretty smart cookie himself, Thanos will just out-think him.
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Yeah, didn't you guys try to have Darkseid in a fight once? I vaguely recall that you did....I mean, sorta....Darkseid was there...no opponent...Yeah, not much of a fight.
Still, I believe Darkseid has bitten off more than he can chew here. Now, let's just put away the whole "but he was single-handed beaten by this one hero once" crap that I know is going to start flowing. Both of these titans have had their moments in the realm of the badly written. Most recently, Thanos was beaten under by Odin-powered Thor, whilst Darkseid, on the WB animated series, got a nice spankfest courtasy of a P.O.'ed Superman. And these are, again, the most recent examples. It's not easy to be an impossibly powerful would-be galaxy waster when the people who write you are switched every two years and have deadlines to meet....
Oh, yeah, the fight! Well, we basically have two godlike beings squaring off here. However, if you notice, every time Thanos shows up, he has some magical jim-jammy thinga-ma-jig that makes even God Kings require a change of diapers. Darkseid, however, just has his planet's worth of minions and his own mind-blowing abilities, just the bare basics.
So....Darkseid shows up with armada. Thanos shows up with magical jim-jam. Apokolypse armies go out like putties in the first PR season. This leaves Darkseid to face the power of the jim-jam alone, learning too late that jim-jams are too contrived to be hurt by something as minor as omega beams.
And if the Apokolypse army somehow proves to be able to hold Mister Mad Titan, I doubt Thanos is above getting The Mighty Mangog to run in with a folding steel chair the minute things go south. He did it last time.
So, there's my vote......Yeah, yeah, that all made sense. Why are you looking at me sidewise? Stop that. Stop it!
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