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Kingdom Come Superman vs WW 3 Black Adam

Who wins?


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Regular Supes would give WW3 Adam a tough time, KC Superman in a stomp


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Regular Supes would give WW3 Adam a tough time, KC Superman in a stomp
You really think he would stomp him. Did you see who he was going through. No one stopped him as well. They had to take his powers to put him down. He also let Manhunter go and warned him.


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WW 3 Adam 7/10

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You really think he would stomp him. Did you see who he was going through. No one stopped him as well. They had to take his powers to put him down. He also let Manhunter go and warned him.


If you wanted to get a point across

you should have pointed out that Captain Marvel with no clear power-up got the better out of this Superman.

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Regular Supes would be a match for WW3 Adam.

Kingdom Come is clearly a few leaps beyond regular Superman.

KC Superman takes this.


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Regular Supes would give WW3 Adam a tough time, KC Superman in a stomp


KC Supes beat the JSA a lot easier than Adam did


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If you wanted to get a point across

you should have pointed out that Captain Marvel with no clear power-up got the better out of this Superman.
I know very little about kingdom come Superman. I am reading jsa now so thats why I have a few threads with him in it. I read kingdom but not kingdom come but will I am sure after I read these jsa issues.


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KC Superman hasn't really done anything too impressive to justify a much higher then S-Man rating, no selling Herc was great, but depending on your opinion, that could be construed as a low showing for Superman more then a high one for KC S-Man.

While he is more powerful then Supes, I'd say it's

Supes = 100
WW3 Adam = 120
KC Supes = 125

until I see further. No selling Herc that could have been at 50% is not enough to negate the fact that Cap Marvel with no clear power-up got the better of him.

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KC Superman hasn't really done anything too impressive to justify a much higher then S-Man rating, no selling Herc was great, but depending on your opinion, that could be construed as a low showing for Superman more then a high one for KC S-Man.


I actually agree with this.


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KC Superman hasn't really done anything too impressive to justify a much higher then S-Man rating, no selling Herc was great, but depending on your opinion, that could be construed as a low showing for Superman more then a high one for KC S-Man.


Exactly

I don't know why people are over exaggerating KC Superman. He might be a little stronger due to him being at the "height of his abilities" (apparently when he gets older he gets a little stronger kinda like a teen and a grown man) but it's nothing spacial.

Captain Marvel, who is a said to be a little below Black Adam, had no trouble with Superman in Kingdom Come. Hell, people were more intimidated by him than Sups.


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Why do you all say that kc superman is more powerful then regular superman when you all say that main earth superman can go the speed of light but kc superman admitted on panel more then once that he cant go that fast.

Heres one instant where he recruits captain marvel because hes one of the only members on the jla that can go the speed of light.
http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?...ice19005cl7.jpg

Superman admitted that him and bizarro are physical equals and this is proof that captain marvel is faster then both and it was basically stated that captain marvel can go the speed of light. He basically speed blitz bizarro.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/...ice07005do8.jpg

We also have the instance where superman is flying as fast as he can to try and stop the villians/heroes from killing each other before the megaton bomb hits and captain marvel (who flies the speed of light) catches up with kc superman and speed blitz him.

I couldnt find the scan but lets not forget the time where superman needed captain marvel help to stop the flash that was moving 99% the speed of light and stated that he isnt fast enough to catch him but captain marvel was.

This was all stated and established in kc, so how is kc superman more powerful then main earth superman if you all say that main earth superman can go the speed of light.


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He was at the height of his invulnerability but he still bled. Hell, captain marvel was shown to be his superior on more then 3 occasions.


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He said speed of lightning, not light.


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He said speed of lightning, not light.


It dont matter (even though you are telling the truth, had to reread it), he admitted that captain marvel was faster then him on to many of occasions and captain marvel was established during that arc that his top speed was light speed. Captain marvel speed blitz a being that was equal to superman (bizarro), he speed blitzed superman, superman himself admitted from his own mouth that captain marvel was faster, it cant get any clearer then that.


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I believe those scans are from a non-canon series called Justice. They have nothing to do with Kingdom Come except the having the same artist


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I believe those scans are from a non-canon series called Justice. They have nothing to do with Kingdom Come except the having the same artist


Their titles are even "Justice," for that matter.

I didn't think Bizarro even appeared in Kingdom Come.


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I believe those scans are from a non-canon series called Justice. They have nothing to do with Kingdom Come except the having the same artist


Yup.


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I believe those scans are from a non-canon series called Justice. They have nothing to do with Kingdom Come except the having the same artist


It was from justice but the writer stated that he was going to establish the characters as being like there counter parts from kingdom come. Thats why the art work was the same along with the attitude and roles that the villian/heros played (well some of them). Thats why captain marvel was displayed as being above superman in both kindom come and justice.

Same characters but different story line. sad


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