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i used to think jonnz was well above xavier, but i've since come to think it's a lot closer than that. i also tend to belive xavier is more skilled in mental combat than jonnz which would likely off-set whatever power advantage jonnz DID have. i could see x taking him at least half the time and maybe more. i think his biggest challenge would be black. if black was handicapped to JUST tp, xavier would stand a chance. throw in black's tk as well and charlie is screwed. he takes any of the marvel tp's, imo.
He could take Rachel and Jean, the former via skill, the latter simply because he was always better imo. He could take Emma but considering how easily she now blocks his telepathy, it would be taxing.
He'd lose to Exodus probably, and Moondragon if she has the Mind Gem.
Black would snap his neck telekinetically and I'm still of the opinion MM is a little above Xavier at least in sheer power so I'd still lean to him winning, but leo's probably right about the battle telepathy point.
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exodus, eh? i'm a little surprised. i know he's powerful (i'd have said in the rachel range -- namely, close to charlie) but i'd have thought chuck a little above him in terms of tp. you and ec are about the most knowledgeable guys in this area that i know though, so i'll take your word for it.
to deviate from topic for a second, as a fellow sersi-lover, how do you think chuck would do against sersi in a straight tp battle, x? i'd say charlie would take her for a solid majority. again, maybe less an overall power issue in my mind, and more a question of tp combat skills.
oh, and i'd assumed that moondragon was withOUT the gem . . .
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I was referring more to the Bloodties level Exodus... accept no imitations.
He would probably take Sersi in a telepathy fight. She can do somethings better than him like scanning range, but he has far better and far more combat telepathy feats.
See that's the thing, Xavier just got an official upgrade when he got his telepathy back and was apparently more powerful then ever. But it hasn't been all that impressive until recently in X-Men Legacy #210 issue since according to Karima the mental energy both him and Exodus were spewing was massive. And I think Emma feels the fight from halfway across the world.
However there are a bunch of circumstances that need to be taken into account in that eg Exodus wasn't trying to kill Charles, he was trying to help him by showing him memories(Deaths that were Xavier's faults) from the past. He actually wanted Charles to lead the Acolytes.
The Moondragon from Annihilation should lose IMO.
Mike Carey baffles me though.
Exodus stated that he was unable to access his "other powers" when Emma engaged him in telepathic combat but he was able to access it during his fight with Xavier when he smacked down Magneto.
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Against Emma Frost... I'm not sure who has more power, but i think she has more skill, and has always been considered to be on par with Xavier... I think she would win with a little effort, if neither had Cerebra. Her diamond form blocks some telepathy, so she could just walk up and bash his head in... then put him in a coma. Or she could just psi-bolt him, telepathically show him everthing he ever regreted, then kick the **** out of him. It's open to opinion really.
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Emma has NOT always been considered to be on his level, I hate when people spread this nonsense. Charles wipes the floor with Emma. Theres no opinion to it.
Emma's the weakest of the major telepaths, but I'm of the opinion she's definitely the most skilled. Charles is skilled but often he can power through mental defenses, while Emma's always needed to use her powers with precision and skill to even keep up with Jean and X's power, and that's sharpened her in mental combat.
So Xavier still overall holds the advantage, but nowadays she's really tough to take on mind to mind for anyone. It's gotten to the point where if he's sloppy or caught off-guard he can lose.
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