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X-Men vs. Super Skrull

Wolverine
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Cyclops
Beast

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Super Skrull

They fight in the wreckage of the X-Mansion.

Everybody is in character... no attacks from SS that we've never seen before.

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I disagree

ok.
imo ss has a great combination of speed,power alongside his shield capabilitys and durabitlity to win this.


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ok.
imo ss has a great combination of speed,power alongside his shield capabilitys and durabitlity to win this.
The X team has strength in numbers, backed by awesome coordination/teamwork, and the homefield advantage.

SS is a fighter, and will either go for Johnny or Thing's powers first... which means Scott gets the first shots off.

Wolverine or Colossus can turn this into a brawl while the others provide range, while Kurt and Hank are back up, retrieval and distractions. I doubt, with Scott, Logan and Piotr targeting him, that SS is going to be able to tag either of the furry blue mutants.

And in order to put Colossus down, he'd have to put all the others down and then take it to a brawl, one on one.

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The X team has strength in numbers, backed by awesome coordination/teamwork, and the homefield advantage.

SS is a fighter, and will either go for Johnny or Thing's powers first... which means Scott gets the first shots off.

Wolverine or Colossus can turn this into a brawl while the others provide range, while Kurt and Hank are back up, retrieval and distractions. I doubt, with Scott, Logan and Piotr targeting him, that SS is going to be able to tag either of the furry blue mutants.

And in order to put Colossus down, he'd have to put all the others down and then take it to a brawl, one on one.

what if ss starts in the air???only knightcrawler could get to him and could he get through his sheilds.either that or he goes supernova, ss aint got any problems with collateral damage.


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The Xmen all get there organs melted, i dont wanna here Cyke blasts yada yada - human durability = fail..BIG time, NC plays it smart and stays out of range and Colossus?? What temperatures can he witstand?

Torch with Things durability soloes them, and so will SS imo


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what if ss starts in the air???only knightcrawler could get to him and could he get through his sheilds.either that or he goes supernova, ss aint got any problems with collateral damage.
If he's in the air, Scott could still tag him, Colossus and Wolverine could do a fastball special, and Kurt can teleport anyone up there.

SS'd be too focussed on the brawl at hand and on those tagging him from range to go nova, I think. But that's a fair point.

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Originally posted by Boy Blue
Wolverine
Nightcrawler
Colossus
Cyclops
Beast

vs.

Super Skrull

They fight in the wreckage of the X-Mansion.

Everybody is in character... no attacks from SS that we've never seen before.

Unless SS fights like a complete moron he should win this. Reed's powers would allow him to shrug off everything the team has with the possible exception of Cyclops's optic blast and that's easily countered by IW's forcefields. And SS's antimatter blast should capable of one shotting pretty much everyone on the field except maybe Colossus.


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Unless SS fights like a complete moron he should win this. Reed's powers would allow him to shrug off everything the team has with the possible exception of Cyclops's optic blast and that's easily countered by IW's forcefields. And SS's antimatter blast should capable of one shotting pretty much everyone on the field except maybe Colossus.
Reed needs to actively keep moving his body to maintain his rubbery durability, which I haven't seen SS do.

When was the last time we saw SS use an antimatter blast? He's not one that holds back, and yet I didn't see him use it throughout Annihilation.

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Reed needs to actively keep moving his body to maintain his rubbery durability, which I haven't seen SS do.

When was the last time we saw SS use an antimatter blast? He's not one that holds back, and yet I didn't see him use it throughout Annihilation.
IW could beat this team you named by herself. Skrull has her powers, things, reeds, and johnny's, plus HIS OWN. He's High herald level seriously. He could turn invis and own them all. Or shape change and fool them into not knowing who as who. Or kill them all in a nova blast.

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IW could beat this team you named by herself.
Lulz.

Also, SS isn't high herald level.

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Reed needs to actively keep moving his body to maintain his rubbery durability, which I haven't seen SS do.

When was the last time we saw SS use an antimatter blast? He's not one that holds back, and yet I didn't see him use it throughout Annihilation.

Why does Reed have to keep moving to stay rubbery? I seem to remember him wrapping up Wolverine and resisting his claws while staying pretty stationary(when the New FF was hunting the Human Torch I believe).

And his Anti-Matter blast is often forgotten(I probably wouldn't know about it if I hadn't made the respect thread) but it's still a part of his arsenal. I have no problem admitting that he's not likely to use it right out of the gate, but if they somehow manage to get him on the ropes I don't see why he wouldn't. And with SS's history of taking shots from Thor and Surfer, I find it hard to believe that this particular X-Men lineup could put him down before he decided to use it.


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Why does Reed have to keep moving to stay rubbery? I seem to remember him wrapping up Wolverine and resisting his claws while staying pretty stationary(when the New FF was hunting the Human Torch I believe).
He has to continuously shift his form, even if he's visually staying in place. It's why he can be KTFO'd by an attack he doesn't see coming.

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And his Anti-Matter blast is often forgotten(I probably wouldn't know about it if I hadn't made the respect thread) but it's still a part of his arsenal. I have no problem admitting that he's not likely to use it right out of the gate, but if they somehow manage to get him on the ropes I don't see why he wouldn't. And with SS's history of taking shots from Thor and Surfer, I find it hard to believe that this particular X-Men lineup could put him down before he decided to use it.
I see his anti-matter blast being similar to Jubilee's telepathic immunity/resistance... a cool power given to them in their conception, and then unofficially retconned out of their powerset when later writers wanted to stick to the core powers, and not deviate.

But seeing as I still believe that Scott's gonna tag him from the get go and that Kurt/Logan/Piotr can make up the distance when he's knocked back, and splitting SS's attention between brawl and range, that he won't have time to explore esoteric abilities.

He'll resort to his main fighting method, which loses to a well coordinated team like this.

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The Xmen all get there organs melted, i dont wanna here Cyke blasts yada yada - human durability = fail..BIG time, NC plays it smart and stays out of range and Colossus?? What temperatures can he witstand?

Torch with Things durability soloes them, and so will SS imo


In theory he would start melting at 9000 degrees F. However, he's never been put to the test, so one must wonder (especially with his increasing durability over the years) if he could possibly even withstand that to far greater temperatures. Eh.


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He has to continuously shift his form, even if he's visually staying in place. It's why he can be KTFO'd by an attack he doesn't see coming.

I see his anti-matter blast being similar to Jubilee's telepathic immunity/resistance... a cool power given to them in their conception, and then unofficially retconned out of their powerset when later writers wanted to stick to the core powers, and not deviate.

But seeing as I still believe that Scott's gonna tag him from the get go and that Kurt/Logan/Piotr can make up the distance when he's knocked back, and splitting SS's attention between brawl and range, that he won't have time to explore esoteric abilities.

He'll resort to his main fighting method, which loses to a well coordinated team like this.


This team all can die to bubbles to the brains. Or He deflects Cykes blast into the others. SS is far to powerful and versatile to lose to this team.

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Jubilee is telepathy resistant? blink
She was at first. Something about fireworks in the brain..

But, srsly, I learned this from Cresh some time ago, who said that he wouldn't use it in a debate due to its forgotten-ness.

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This team all can die to bubbles to the brains. Or He deflects Cykes blast into the others. SS is far to powerful and versatile to lose to this team.
I've never seen SS go for bubbles in the brain before. Have you?

And I've also rarely, if ever seen him make a full bubble shield, rather than simply a partial bubble... which means taking the time to deflect Cyke's beam would result in Logan clawing into his back.

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