Alekhine's Defense: This defense ( I P-K4, N-KB3 ) is as bold as the Caro-Kann is stodgy. In fact, the consensus of opinion is that Alekhine's Defense is too daring. Its underlying idea is to menace the White King's Pawn at once, provoking the advance of that Pawn – and other White Pawns as well – in the hope of later demonstrating that the Pawns have been weakened by their advance.
Digi's Writeup (Week 5)
My Team
- Death's Head II (Minion) (now Minion Prime)
- Optimus Prime
- Osiris (Black Adam Jr.)
- Iron Man (Extremis)
- Joker
LISTEN TO THE FOLLOWING LINK FIRST (have your sound on fairly high) http://boomp3.com/listen/c1wozsot9_y/writeup4
It may not load the first time. Make sure it works, then listen prior to reading anything. Thanks. The accompanying scans/writeup is below.
A knowledge of mid-90's NBA basketball and Transformers helps. I'll post youtube stuff later on for those who miss the references.
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Written Portion
- Listen to the audio writeup. It pwns harder than it has any right to. But most of my actual strategy is in the written portion here. Enjoy!
Prep
Stark Tower
Tony grabs and enters very specific armor that he has used in the Extremis era, which will be used in conjunction with Optimus for a large power boost. They perform this boost in prep. More on this later.
Minion assimilates the mind/soul of Amon (Osiris) and Joker. More on this later. He also grabs the Joker's Joker Gas for possible use.
No amalgamations. With Joker/Osiris assimilated, Optimus, Tony, and Minion Prime are my combatants.
For those of you who missed my last match, I just built a team-busting character in Minion, now Minion Prime. See, he can assimilate the minds and souls of victims, which he then houses within himself in a single hive-mind personality, controlled by Death's Head, who is the controlling personality of the group. I assimilated Mary Marvel and Freddy Freeman (Cpt. Marvel Jr.), and their souls are all I need to activate their power. So with their new body being Minion's, he's now roughly as powerful as Cpt. Marvel himself. I also assimilated Karate Kid's mind, adding his mind-numbing skill to the equation.
And I keep all of this for the entire tournament, due to the information retention rule for this tournament.
I proved all of this with truckloads of scans on each and every point, and illadelph approved every step of it as legal. Scoob and leo, two of the best in the business, couldn't debunk it. And all 3 judges believed it completely. If Kandy/id feel the need to challenge it, I'll be happy to post everything again and explain why I'm right.
And I just added Osiris to the mix as well. Think of him as Black Adam Jr. Combined, I have as much or more raw power than Black Adam or Cpt. Marvel, added to the inconceivable skills of KK. Boo-yah. He alone has more power than Kandy/id's entire team.
Spot's amalgam might prove troublesome, but only temporarily. And he certainly can't do anything even close to hurting such a monster. Or even Tony and Optimus, for that matter.
For anyone confused about Minion Prime, I'll have a full-length explanation, complete with scans, in my first few posts.
Optimus Prime, kids. A jobber aura comparable only to guys like Cpt. America and Squirrel Girl. An inspiration to human and machine alike. He doesn't need a fancy soul-retention power boost, or extra armor. I'm just letting him loose and allowing him to do what he does best: kick evil's ass.
Each one of those is Class 100 metal behemoths, attacking a single foe. Trashed in a single page.
There's lots more where that came from. But it should get us started.
Unfair Advantages
They really should have switched out War Machine when they saw my team. I already mentioned Minion's tech-bypass, which works fine. But Tony. Well. I think we all know what he can do.
Let's start off with the worst part for them. Tony created WM. He has access codes for all of his tech. Spidey's Iron costume, various technology bits around his lab, and any armor he's ever made: http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imwm1ls4.jpg
Buh-bye.
But let's say I'm feeling kinky, and want to make them think they have a prayer at winning. What else could he do:
- 3 ridiculous powerhouses. I have War Machine's amalgam negated from the opening moments of the fight. They better hope they can cobble together some kind of herald-busting plan with the other 2. Otherwise, curbstomp.
- Minion Prime solos anyway. The other two are just here for the awesomeness-factor.
Well let me share a few personal notes. I come to release a few things, one is that this tournament is based on a battle grid that makes up a 3 man cell from each opposing side (I know old news). And the other is, the closer you stick to prep/strategy, the better the chance to refute opposing claims. I believe the farther you stray from prep/strategy, the more difficult it becomes to reinforce your standing claims. Ok so let see if I can make use the above.
Knowledge is Power
We will hook up both Spawn and Gambit to a harness that granted a young Cable all his memories and experience in seconds [Cable and Deadpool #18, pg 16] . Now Gambit and Spawn know as much as Cable does, this has its uses. Remember it’s a 3 man Cell, if we want to increase our chances of successes it really helps if everyone is on point and on the same page. Plus a few more beneficence. ^__^
Army of the Damned.
Ok I am going to do something radical, so don’t freak out. Minus War Machine, the rest of my team mates will be killed off. That’s right quick, and painless death. I know its crazy, but stick with me on this ok? Spawn will then absorb the souls of his fallen brethren (Spot, Gambit, & Cable) [Click Me] . And through Spawn, he can now call them back [Click Me] . Cable, Gambit, and Spot have effectively gained 3rd Age Spawn entire power set with no guess work [Click Me] ..
Intermission recap.
Everyone has gained Cables entire life time worth of experience.
Everyone minus War Machine has gained 3rd Age Spawn power set.
Lets step it up.
Amalgam - Spawn-War machine (War Spawn)
Ok at this point Gambit will gain the ability to interface with computer and tech by one way or the other. War Spawn will unshed a drone and attach itself to Gambit, it’s tailored so it can interact and interface with PC/Tech [Click Me] . Or Gambit who now has Spawn’s power set and Cables knowledge, will create bionicle parts akin to Cables own so that it can interface with pc/tech. It really helps, that Spawn has both the power set to morph its body [Click Me] to the point of creating complex machinery or its matter manipulating ability[Click Me] .
Now the three can make use of the A.I., and technopathic abilities thanks to the Dominus Objective. With the Cone of Silence designs at hand, War Spawn will create an entire set (one for each member) to use though Spawn’s matter manipulating abilities [Spawn #9] . Well really War Spawn has it easier for himself, since the drones can be catered to do virtually anything as long as the host has knowledge of it. Anyhow the Cone of Silence can be recreated by either means (it doesn’t really matter).
Intermission recap.
Everyone has gained Cables entire life time worth of experience.
Everyone minus War Machine (he is fused with Spawn) has gained 3rd Age Spawn power set.
Everyone has gained simulated TK/TP and Super A.I.
United we stand - Divided we fall!
Immortality is banned, but raising the dead isn’t. That is why, War Spawn will create a set of drones, that will attach to Gambit and Cable. It works as a beacon to constantly monitor its location, and if either Gambit/Cable happen to die (HA! Good luck). This drone will make use of Spawns resurrecting ability, to revive him [Click Me] . If Cable or Gambit are dispatched entirely, well guess what? The drone was a beacon another will be dispatched right away, to revive its fallen brethren.
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Strategy
Our strategy, fairly simple search and destroy. What I am really happy about, is we have options, options, options, and options. The name in our game, is all about diversity, not raw power alone.
War Spawn, Gambit, and Cable enter the battlefield. Let me tell you something, with Spawns power set, all are employing some powerful TP. And with everyone having Cables entire experience, everyone has become skilled Telepaths. If the option is available, Mind Scan followed by a Mind Swipe. If not how about empathy, vary few organic life forms have protection against this. If so Empathetic onslaught. If not, how about Technopathy? All of us have a vary powerful technopathic abilities, coupled with Cables experience and assistance. You know the deal, hack-override-shutdown.
Surprise attacks, cant see that happening with telepaths, empathy, technopaths and yes a sixth sense ala Spiderman that detects danger in it of its own. What makes it worth a while, is that we have simulated TK which makes it all the more dangerous that’s to its range and power. Especially if you once again consider we have Cables experience, manipulating TK is like an extension of himself. And hey guess what, if for some reason Digi manages breach our shields, and bypass the suits automated defenses. We can phase and shadow port.
I can go on, but I think you guys get the picture.
Since this is a new set of judges, rather than have you take my word for it and hope that you believe me, I want you to fully understand what I did, why it works, and see the scans that support it. Kandy/id don't have to feel the need to respond to this if they don't want. They're certainly welcome to, but it doesn't talk specifically about our match, just explains one of my characters for the judges' sake.
- What is less know is that he is absorbing the actual person, their mind and soul, not just a collection of data (scans shown below)
- First, the rules allow for information retention from match to match, so anything Minion assimilates is carried with him for the entire tourney. Second, Illadelph approved soul-assimilation as part of information retention, so that is included as well.
- List of people Minion has assimilated: Black Panther, Starfire, Taskmaster, Karate Kid, Mary Batson (i.e. Mary Marvel), Freddy Freeman (Cpt. Marvel Jr.), Amon Tomaz (Osiris), Joker. There's actually a couple more, since the first few were amalgamated with other characters. But those are the important ones.
- Karate Kid is the most noteworthy among the "skill" assimilations. He accomplishes class 100+ feats with no powers at all, and is faster than anyone outside of speedsters. Combined with Minion’s Class 100 strength, and just with those two you're looking at the strongest and most skilled character in the tournament. By a lot. The Marvel family is noteworthy because their host body is now Minion's, since their consciousness helps make up the person that is now Minion. This allows me to call down their magical power (scans shown below)
Minion was once destroyed almost completely, though later put back together. When this happened, one of the beings insides of him escaped. Here he relates the experience: http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dh17ar2.jpg http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dh18uq9.jpg
And I quote: "when my fleeing soul escaped into the Battletide, I encountered the body of your latest victim, Termagaira, the demon-lord. It was child's play to possess that form..."
My fleeing soul
There's a couple others that support these, but those are the biggest ones. Taken together, it amounts to irrefutable proof. Scoobless and leo seemed to think it wasn't logical that he'd download souls. But what is logical in comics? The scans support it, multiple times. End of story.
Misc. Scans/Points
- The question was brought up at one point of whether or not the wizard Shazam would allow the Marvel's power to remain with Minion after the assimilation. Beyond the fact that doing so would essentially be murdering the souls of the Marvels, and the fact that Shazam isn't the direct source for Freddy or Osiris, such an act would also constitute outside intervention in the match, which is illegal. The Marvels have access to their power, period. And the cyborg Minion's body is now their own host body. For Shazam to change that would be an outside force changing an aspect of the match. So it can't be argued for, as it would be an illegal tactic.
- The point was also brought up that if 1 magical lightning bolt changes one (say for Mary), the second might change her back (when Freddy calls down his power). I debunked that anyway with scans, since they're all separate occurrences that wouldn't affect one another, but it’s now a moot point, because I now have 3 with such power (because we added Osiris). So if you believe that logic, it doesnt harm me anymore.
But he was unable to find Mary. As it turns out, this was because her being/soul had been subtly changed in the crisis, and Shazam was unfamiliar with it's particular signature. Eventually Mary happened upon Billy (Cpt. Marvel) in her human form and all was rectified, with her receiving her power.
Similarly, here's Billy talking about the spirit and power of Black Adam residing within his body: http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marvel9pd1.jpg
It's not the host body but the person, the being, the essence, soul, etc. that is important. And I have that.
So barring new objections (which I'll likely be able to shut down just as easily) I have > Cpt. Marvel strength, speed, and total power, with KK's skills, and Minion's versatility, healing, and adamantium-esque durability. High Herald level material, folks. Easily.
So that's that. On with the match. Let me get us started:
Reactions to Their Writeup
- I'm really going to have to devote another post to their plan at some point, because a few bullet points here aren't going to encapsulate the amount of logical bile they're attempting to spew with it. I can see at least 1-2 things that I'm fairly sure are illegal according to the rules, very few scans that "prove" what they claim to, or even explain what they claim to, and more than one stretch of the imagination.
First, the latter two scans from this section show some ugly beasts, and Spawn posing menacingly. Nowhere does it begin to prove that he can "call them back."
Along those lines, soul assimilation was approved as information retention, but nothing that the body provides. So all Spawn gets is their mind and soul. By "bringing them back" are you saying that Spawn can recreate their bodies atom by atom with only their soul? Show me where having a soul gives you exact instructions to reconstitue a body, complete with powers. Because Spot/Gambit's powers are based on their bodies, not their souls, and their minds alone wouldn't have access to them.
Therefore, either Spawn is performing high level atomic organic matter manipulation (illegal) or he has their souls but not their powers. Hooray.
Also, what Spawn are you using? Can that version simply grant people 3rd Age Spawn powers at will? It seem dubious to me, since very few people of ANY power level can create someone who is their equal or greater in total power. In under 10 minutes.
Quote: at this point Gambit will gain the ability to interface with computer and tech by one way or the other.
WTF does that even mean?! Gambit (dead) gets bodily reconstituted once the battle has started (I'll be attacking at the very start), then gains the ability to interface with machinery and creates bionicles (again, wtf is a bionicle) to interface with pc/tech. Which then only gives him some AI and Cable's knowledge. Way to waste your time there, at that's assuming that the 4-5 unlikely aspects of it manage to work.
Gambit's dead, and you're either lying about Spawn's powers, or breaking the rules to bring his body back. And his soul doesn't = his mutant power, so that first part can be ignored entirely.
And even if Spawn can shape-shift, it sounds like you're trying to shape WM's armor into new stuff. It's an armor, not a body. So even if Spawn could shape his body into advanced tech (doubtful based on the scans), they sure as hell didn't prove he could do it to an outside armor.
Good luck resurrecting someone in the middle of a Minion Prime rapestomp. Lulz.
Beyond that, immortality is indeed banned. But so is healing that is noticeably > Wolverine and such. Atomic reconstruction is among those healing powers banned. Bringing someone back from the dea, which is FAR >>> than simple healing, I would imagine is also banned.
But this is if you can recreate your team atom by atom, and manage to stay alive while I whale the sh*t out of you. Neither is likely.
No one on my team is susceptible to tp, so that's all a lot of posturing. I'll show why an empathic attack would actually hurt you later on against Minion. And if your technopathy trumps my own considerable technopathic skill...actually, if it trumps the combined might of all 3 of my team, THEN we'll talk.
Scan & Points
Empathic attack: http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a6uk9.jpg
That's what happened when Rogue got a whiff of the 106 personalities inside Minion. Go ahead. Try to empathize with me. You'll end up a messy heap on the ground.
- So he wants us to believe that in 10 minutes of prep Spawn is going to recreate their bodies, morph WM/Cable tech into AI/TK/TP god powers, and make a cup of coffee. Good coffee takes time, folks. As do stupid complex plans.
- Also, when you have a High Herald and another character or two attacking you, I don't think high-end matter manipulation feats and resurrection are going to be easy to pull off. Dying, however, will be very easy for them to accomplish.
- I showed 5-6 technopathy feats from Minion and Tony in my writeup. And Minion is shielded from remote influence, which would include technopathy. They'll need to give me a reason why there's is anywhere near mine, and why WM wouldn't be shut down in the opening seconds.
- If that isn't the case and it's just Spawn, he still only has their souls, not their powers, since these characters' powers are dependent on the body (unlike the Marvels). So it's Spawn with WM's armor on. That we can easily handle. Not that we couldn't handle the "big plan" (still nowhere near mine), but it will never work. Or if it would, they've given us no reason to believe it would.
- The plan's barely coherent, imo. And nice try with borrowing my soul assimilation idea, but I didn't use it in such a sloppy manner, nor try to do things with it that are likely impossible.
- And even if it works, Minion Prime stomps, Tony pwns anything having to do with WM, and Optimus Prime looks awesome.
Ok I am going to give you one piece of advice before you make yourself look anymore pitiful. Its Eidolon Warwear version of War Machine. Not the suit designed by Tony Stark. Can you at least get this right?
Heh. Which would've been nice for you to post, ya know, ever. I only work with what I'm given. So please don't call me pitiful when you haven't even shared that info with anyone until now. I don't insult if I can avoid it, and I'd appreciate if you didn't either.
It's also why I showed a ton of ways of taking him out. The version doesn't matter.
But I'll save anything else for my next post. I don't want to start talking about strategies in a non-official post.
Fair enough. Though as active as I am, I haven't been in that thread recently, and can't see everything, and will admit that I haven't had the time to read your earlier matches. Anyway, my earlier points stand. I have various tactics against any version of him, and you also could've turned that into an advantageous debating point in your first post. Instead, you're coming across as expecting me to see every post you make, even ones that aren't in our battle.
What you saw during my prep write up, was the first time he calls forth those souls and how it took form. If you look at the scans above, he seems to be able to do so in battle more efficiently.
You retained the souls of the Marvel family, and call forth their power so wtf do you mean by all you get is their mind and soul. I mean how is it that a simply having a Soul, will grant you its entire power? Its comic book write up, and that’s the nature of the Shazam nature.
Its not that Spawn can reconstruct entire bodies atom by atom, it’s the nature of his power. When a Soul that was absorbed by Spawn is call forth, it takes its human form. Because they where absorbed by Spawn they gained his power set.
You see like your discovery with Deathhead , I found my own and I wish to use it with my drafted team members.
Its 3rd Age Spawn, if you wish you can read issues 121-160. It marks the beginning and the end of 3rd age.
What so dubious about the frame work, how long should it take to simply explode my teammates, absorb their souls, and call them forth. It certainly does not seem to take much time in the scans.
Quote: at this point Gambit will gain the ability to interface with computer and tech by one way or the other.
WTF does that even mean?! Gambit (dead) gets bodily reconstituted once the battle has started (I'll be attacking at the very start), then gains the ability to interface with machinery and creates bionicles (again, wtf is a bionicle) to interface with pc/tech. Which then only gives him some AI and Cable's knowledge. Way to waste your time there, at that's assuming that the 4-5 unlikely aspects of it manage to work.
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It means I am still working within the constrains of of my ten minutes. The only reason, why you find this unlikely is because you do not know, or wish to make a case out of it.
To kill, absorb as soul, and call for him certainly does not take up 10 minutes for Spawn. I need you to read through the prep carefully, I don’t know if you simply looking for an excuse to debunk my claims or if you truly wish to know how Spawn power set works.
Spawn can morph its body parts, and apply matter manipulation on organic being. Moments ago Gambit retained Cables entire knowledge, and gained Spawn power set. If I wish for Gambit to interface with tech, the way Cable does I want him to apply his knowledge of Cable bio-mechanical parts, and modify his body with morphing or matter manipulating abilities. What I get in return is the same ability Cable has, and accesses the material in providence Cable and War Spawn have already. Which is the A.I., Technopathy, and ability to interface with tech.
Gambit died, and was resurrected through Spawn. When a soul is manifested through Spawn on the physical plane, they retain their human body plus the new found power.
http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?...manv1321va2.jpg
Author: Gadgets that morph out of the suit, can be anything. Guns, spy devices, power conducts, etc.. what ever the imagination can come up with. That’s the beauty of the suit. Constantly changing and adapting. Constantly Surprising.
Its good thing I was not reduced to Atoms then. And I believe Wolverine at his best is the bench mark. Part of the reason why he healed, was due to his partial immortality.
Tsk, Tsk Cocky attitude. Exactly what will you do when I release the souls you have in Minion? Or what If I absorb them for myself? You see this character can continue to fight, even after the worst beating. Regardless if his head is blown off, and a piece of his torso is laying on the floor.
In fact I want you to make physical contact, it makes it so much easier to apply empathy.
I wager that we are, thanks to Cable experience and Super A.I. created by the Celestials themselves.
Nice, but Spawn cope with 6,000 personalities at once….and yet that is still small fries because he coped with an entire planet worth of thoughts
Okay, i'm back from my previous-match limbo and ready to kick ass. Like always, i'll just get right to work tearing the meat of Digi's plan apart.
I thought you said you weren't going to use audio against me... well whatever, most of it's in the writeup.
All I see in these scans are some devices that don't do what you say.
1. Jazz built them... what proof is there that Optimus can?
2. We don't know how long it took Jazz to make them.
3. They were designed to counteract the rays from one of Dr. Doom's machines... where's the proof that they protect against actual telepathy?
I thought crossovers were never canon, do you have any proof this one is?
Once again, more scans that don't show what you're saying they show. What the scans actually show is Jazz and Bumblebee hooking up some cords and transferring their power into Iron Man. Optimus didn't do a damn thing in those scans.
Lacking the presence of Jazz and Bumblebee, no such thing will occur.
I never actually saw any scans of him assimilating souls in your previous battles... I saw you assimilating memories but those aren't the same thing at all. If you have any soul-assimilating scans, please do show.
Do you have any proof that the souls are all you need to call on the powers?
The rules say that you retain only experience, with no loopholes. Souls, well that's something that you've tangibly gained (if it turns out that you can assimilate them in the first place) and is not a form of experience.
You managed to fool three judges with your abilities as a tourney vet and good writer. Scoob and Leo showed how this one just doesn't work. I'll show it all over again.
Please do. I'll explain how you're wrong.
Once again you're going on the assumption that the soul transfer can work; it won't. In this case, Black Adam will need to grant powers to minion all over again, which is outside help. Hell, receiving power from Black Adam is itself outside help.
Yeah, nice shields we've got aren't they?
You may notice that he actually needed to stall for time AND have been previously hit with the shield to be able to analyze and override it. He won't have those luxuries here.
Yeah, but Optimus is also a metal behemoth. It's no real feat to be able to beat people of your own level. I mean, if Batman beats up some thugs, it's nice but it's not really worrying to someone much stronger then a thug. Similarly until Optimus beats foes of our caliber that feat counts for nothing.
Tony never created the Eidolon. That's why every tactic you'ce suggested is planned for the wrong armor, and is thus the wrong plan.
Revelation (issue 152) Al Simons aka Spawn is actually a Legion of Souls.
Upon Al Simmons original death, his soul was infused with over 6 thousand other souls. Neither Maleboliga, or Mammon had any clue of this [Click Me] . So when Al signed his contract with Malebolgia, all the souls that bonded to Al will go through the same fate [Click Me] . Meaning the deal of becoming a Hell Spawn for Malebolgia, carried on with thousands souls that bonded with Spawn. However Spawn, has bin absorbing lost souls over the course of the comic book [Click Me] . These souls also bonded with Al, and carried the same fate Al has [Click Me] . To become Hell Spawns, upon being called. You see in Spawn comic book, God and Satan are playing a war game and the foot soldiers are human souls. If they die as good ppl, they go to heavens army, bad people become part of Satan’s army. Having MoM* intervene, and imbed Al with the ability to bond with souls he absorbs, is the reason why he literally becomes the 3rd force (well 4th if you count Dark Urizen). Now Spawn can capitalize on the dead souls, that God or Satan fails to gain to add him to his legion [Click Me] .
* (short of Man of Miracles aka Omnipotent God in Spawn verse)
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I hope the explanation above clarifies, some questions. If you look at the explanation or take your time to read Spawn issues 152-161. I think you begin to clearly understand the reason as to why I killed off my team [Click Me] , absorbed their souls [Click Me] , and call them back [Click Me] . They are now resurrected with full human body function [Click Me] , but with the exceptions of now having Hell Spawn powers of their own [Click Me] . Spawn cant simply grant his powers like say Black Adam, but he can convert his team mates into Hell Spawns in this processes.
What’s the significance of having Hell powers, and how do they favor against Digi team you might say?
First I would like for members to think that they are my Undying-Hell Bound- Techno Squad.
And yes Digi should be vary afraid of us.
First off, I want members to know that we count with powerful force field, phasing ability, and the best damage soak in the tourney. Not one but my entire team, I would like to think that we come well suited for any kind of assault.
However is Digi well suited for us?
Technopathy - I am calling him out. I don’t think you have sufficient technopathic skills to handle our own. Lets ignore the fact that we count Cable experience and the Dominus Objective. We also count on one of the best A.I. in this tournament. Seriously the Professor succeeded where World Mind came short. I am talking about the transcode virus from the Phalanx. At best World Mind could place fire walls to slow down a viral take over, that inevitably assimilated A.I.. However “The Professor” completely immunized itself from such infection. Which would make sense since the Professor was made by the Celestials themselves. Keeping this in mind, and adding on the fact that my entire team mates have a copy of this A.I. we have no problem launching our cybernetic assault through our A.I. yet retain full focus on the battlefield.
Empathy - Neither Tony nor Minion have any protection from empathy. What was Digi’s response? Rouge being overwhelmed by 106 personalities [Click Me] ? Thanks to Cable experience we can cope with a planets worth of personalities talking all at once. It really does help that Spawn copped with 6,000 personalities every day of his life for past years [Click Me] . I think its safe to say that this little pool of personalities will hinder Spawn in just about Nada when it comes to empathy. As for Tony unless he has an anti empathy button in his gear, Spawn”s” will give it to him worse then Ghost Riders Penance stare. We can manifest not a planet but the entire unearthly plane of hell worth pain in all at once literally.
Exorcism - What’s this that I hear? Minion counts on souls and memories to do his business, yet an exorcism can be performed. Spawn”s” can out right pluck the physical memories and hold them in their hand. Its up to Spawn”s” if they wish to keep it, let it go, or destroy it. Spawn”s” can pluck out his soul’s its up to him if he wishes to keep it, let it go or destroy it. Tell me what kind of protection, does Minion have against this type of attack?
Telepathy - Did members catch the scan in which telepathic exorcism was performed by Jean on Minion [Click Me] ? I thought he was entirely immune to TP? You are aware that Spawn has vary big level of telepathy, and we count on Cables knowledge to reinforce it. Ok lets add on the fact that it’s a team of telepaths no one.
In the first scan he seems to be giving the chick some necroplasm suit thing. Which, of course, doesn't prove they have all of Spawn's powers, nor his experience with them. Just that they have something other than human stats.
Not that it matters. My team is far beyond yours at this point, and you stripped yourself of most of your power (Spot, Gambit, etc.) in order to make a team of symbiotes or something. This just makes the punchin' easier.
Death's Head. But anyway, your false musings on the nature of the Marvels power pale in comparison to me explaining with evidence and scans exactly how they work.
Also, this gives me my main target now: Take out Spawn, take out your entire team. You just created a weakness for yourself.
It's your job to inform judges and opponents of your team's abilities. Not mine to read dozens of issues. The fact that you're telling me that is indicative of how little you've actually explained enough for us to know what's going on.
I never argued it would take a ton of time. I argued that you embellished a lot of Spawn's abilities and didn't present adequate evidence for your plan.
Also, why would they allow themselves to be killed? Is Spawn so much more powerful than them that they'd offer no resistance? Perhaps it really would take longer than 10 minutes.
So you're uploading massive amount of tech and AI, absorbing souls, regurgitating them (sans their original powers, unless proven otherwise), equipping them with the same tech and AI.
Oh, and heck, I know the Warwear can make weapons and such, but has it ever designed something that interfaces directly with the human mind? You'll need evidence there. Also, has it ever made enough equipment to outfit numerous people? Because you're having it do a lot more than it's used to here. In 10 minutes, no less. You keep saying the soul thing takes less than 10. Agreed. But everything else sure as hell won't, especially when you take away 2 minutes for the Spawn/WM amalgamation.
And you still only have a few zombie symbiotes with access to some information. I'm hardly shaking. I've seen no offensive output scans that would even bother Iron Man or Optimus, let alone my worldbreaker.
And I get to kill 1 of your team to cripple the rest. Woo.
Which is a bio, not a feat. But meh. I'm indifferent toward your odd plan anyway, even though I don't think it will work. But it's the judges' decision.
He wasn't reduced to atoms in the scan you showed. But you most certainly will be in our battle. Minion can vaporize brick with his punches: http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dh7il3.jpg
...and he's FAR less strong than what Minion Prime currently is.
As for your healing, what happens when I take your head and throw it into space, then bury your torso a mile in the ground? Can you heal in the 2 minutes that counts as an incapacitation win, as per tourney rules? You're so far below me it's atrocious.
A. What happens when you try to empathically attack about 110 souls all at once, and receive that feedback times about 1000?
B. What happens when you realize this is exactly why I absorbed the Joker in prep?
The Joker has made the Spectre himself go temporarily insane from looking into his mind. Fortunately, Death's Head (the controlling personality) can lock him up when needed: http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dh19ny7.jpg
And can bring him back out whenever he needs to.
So go ahead. Tell me you can deal with the most hardcore psycho in comics. Get me to believe an empathic attack would do anything but bone your guy into incoherence. I dare you.
I could go on. But hell, I just owned them. Remember judges, they have used empathic attacks numerous times in the match so far. Not only do I have a counter, but I made it work against them.
Had the bye week to mess around. It was purely for fun. I made a point of saying very little so that all you'd need to refer to was the written portion, since I didn't want to go back on my promise. I hope it made things easier for you.
The scans say they were Optimus's design, Jazz makes a couple more in seconds later in the arc, and it's a neural inhibitor capable of blocking remote influences to the brain....in a word, telepathy.
I do. http://comicnewsi.com/article.php?c...mid=9440|Stuart
An interview with the writer of the arc. Here's the important quote: It's pre-Civil War; the story is set, in Marvel continuity, between the first and second story arcs of NEW AVENGERS.
Look at them again. There's a line coming from Optimus as well. Nice try though. And if you say he wouldn't be able to charge it that much, that took seconds for all 3. Prime has 10 minutes. I could juice it even more if I wanted.
Reading helps. I already explained all of this in my first post. And I didn't fool anyone, because contrary to what you might believe I don't like having to stretch the truth for a plan. I researched it meticulously, made sure every aspect of it was legal and proven, and proceeded accordingly.
So would regular Mary Marvel be illegal in this tourney? Under your flawed logic, she would.
Anyway, you're misunderstanding the nature of their power, as well as the idea of outside help. The Marvels always have access to their power. Billy, for example, can say "Shazam" any time he wants and become Cpt. Marvel. This requires no outside "granting" of the powers, because the default is that they have access to them. Outside help, then, would be if one of the outsiders took away their access to the power, which would change the nature of their power during the battle. Therefore, I have the power...to not have it would be illegal.
Nicer than Cpt. Atom when he got dumped trucked by Mary (1/3 of my total power, btw, + KK's skill)?? Doubtful.
So heck, if it takes a few seconds to analyze your shields and bypass them, chances are you'll be a puddle on the ground by then anyway.
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Btw, Judges, I show the scan of Cpt. Marvel not because I have him but because I have no other way of accurately representing the power wielded by Minion Prime. Combine the 3 magical Marvel-types with KK's skill, and very few short of Sub-Skyfather show my power correctly. So anything that Billy does is actually quite <<< than what I'm capable of.
And is why the other 4 ways I showed of beating him are still entirely valid. I didn't plan for the wrong armor. I planned for any conceivable armor. And they need to show why EM Pulses, technopathy, magnetism, or plain beatdown (with reaction times >>> theirs, btw) wouldn't work. Scans in the writeup for reference.
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Back to id for a second:
I won't try to mire through the plan to call it good or bad. My earlier objections apply, however. And judges should determine themselves whether or not it is to be believed.
But the important part here, imo, is that they have yet to show anything resembling enough offense to harm me, they sacrificed their powers to give Spawn some play-things, and they're all intrinsically linked to Spawn, meaning that they just gave me a metaphoric head I can cut off that will kill the rest of them. With what they've shown, this plan makes it easier for me to kill them.
Idle boasts without proof. I'd also love to compare any and all scans you can muster to mine with Minion Prime. I'll win that fight.
See my last post. I turned this into an advantage, and at the very least negated it as a tactic. And Optimus Prime would will himself through this. Seriously, that's not even a joke. Empathically assaulting him is like saying, I dunno, that you can break Cpt. America's spirit.
Yeah, Minion was immobilized for the exorcism. Care to tell me how you'll be performing this as Class-Superman+ punches and unholy amounts of energy are cascading over your team in a furious, constant assault?
I win. Easily, at that. They neutered their own team with a risky plan that may not even boost them much. And even if you believe it, it doesn't put them near my level.
By golly come again? exactly what is the reason as to why we lost our power set again? Oh we didn’t, because inside those symbiotic suits are the fully functioning body resurrected by Spawn thanks magic. Get your facts strait Digi.
Well here is the shock factor, killing of War Spawn will not effect the Gambit or Cable. This is evident by the fact that Chris (one of the other Hell Spawns born through All) was running around, while Al was inches away from his death. Besides who would you know who to target to begin with, did your team spy on my own while we ware during prep.
Boy you asked a question, is he 3rd age Spawn? And I gave you the most honest answer, for you to look up in case you had any doubt. Common sense dictates; If you don’t want an answer, then don’t ask the question.
Besides do you understand that this is PIS free tournament. The characters we draft are nothing more then pawns for us to make use off. If killing them off only to revive with a greater power set means, a better pay off. Then yeah my characters will willining do so.
Hehe this was worth a chuckle. Indeed I manage to do all of the above, because it can be done on the fly. What you fail to mention, is the simplicity of some of the snatch and grab that we pulled of because its readily accessible to us. And we have the means to create tech instant, thanks to deisn plans being their, the knowledge to built them, and the ever loving matter manipulating feats that is applied the moment they think of it.
Don’t worry, you will be shaking. Because you have not shown me enough evidence to point out you can even attain what you have with out a block of text, and some crafty writing.
I’ll ask you the question again, do you have any proof that you can gourd yourself from me pulling out your soul? Simple yes or no answer will do just fine.
This is your fuggly trap? Joker Spray and still ranting about not being able to cope with that measly 106 personalities.
Again get your facts strait, Spawn was still handling 6,000 souls fine. Spawn empathizing with the entire planet. He does so every day of his life. The only reason why, he feels he cant bare Amel and Shanti was because he never coped with lost of a new born (or unborn in their case). And it really does not help your case, to know the fact that Spawn was weaken from his previous encounter with Kali who happens to be MoM the omnipotent God of Spawn verse.
So yes I dare, and you failed hard. Try again.
Guess what it doesn’t matter, the fact that it was built by Jazz and not Optimus completely compromises its use. It has to be built by Optimus or at least a scan that shows he has the capability to built one. Do you have such scans? If not then just making them up.
Again your missing the point of passing off a feat from one charter to another. Did Optimus juice up Ironman? Not by the scans you submitted, which makes your point quite moot.
Judges are you reading this, the fact that he maliciously look for scans that remotely resemble his claims fails to live up to his explanation.
We asked for two scans, two simple scans.
1) That states Minion can absorb souls.
2) Another that states, Marvel or the Adams can conjure the Shazam with just their souls.
Did we get either? NO! just a block of text with a ridiculous assumption.
Our objections to your plan stands. Where you try to call on and claim scans for what I had stated. I had provided, and are clearly shown. However between coming up with the so called psy blockers (who aren’t created by Optimus), juicing up Ironman (who Optimus took no part up). And going out of your way, to explain why you came across the idea you can absorb souls, and conjure Shazam bolt with just the souls…with out a freaking scan that says so. Its really makes your remarks dubious, exactly what are you trying to pull of here other then a smoking mirror.
As for Minion -
Which is a bio, not a feat. But meh. I'm indifferent toward your odd plan anyway, even though I don't think it will work. But it's the judges' decision……er what I really meant to say. The bio contradicts itself, since he is clearly effected by outside influence if we take into account that Jean Grey telepathy worked on him.
Seriously I want the judges to look over this, we not only effect technology but humans as well. What’s overkill is that we manipulate the entire spectrum of digital stream in ways Tony would only dream off, only to triple stack our effectiveness with warwear and the professor assistance.
And it got debunked. But hey maybe you will take your time and read up on Spawn before firmly accrete yourself you have the advantage?
Lets disregard the fact, neither me or kandi believe the BS your are spouting about Minion and obtaining Marvel’s power set. Lets just play with the idea; exactly when has immobilizing ever played a factor on what can or cant be telepathically assaulted. Let me answer it for you it doesn’t, which is why you are stopped dead in your tracks.
I want the judges to know, that raw force alone does not win the fight. Again I have the edge in Technopathy. Again I a firm my stance that digi has no protection for Tony or Minion in regards to empathy. He has no protection to having his souls exorcised in real time, not just through telepathy. Again he fabricated false claims, in regards to his psi blockers and the fact that Ironman was pumped. No such thing has happened, they where done by the fellow Autobots? And for two simple scan requests, we get a block of text on research to try to back up his assumption. I have no clue as to who he thinks he is trying to fool. Certainly not us, and hopefully you can see right through this charade.
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League of Champions Week Five: Digi Vs. Kandi/id369
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