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Rulk sightly stronger then Base Savage Hulk*(good fighter, not limited to brute force) Seem to get weaker after long fighting and exerts heat!
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honestly i have been under a rock lol i haven't read anything hulk in forever...ok well i read some of world war hulk where he fought sentry but thats it for over a year but going on that description id say Black Adam
Naah, hes stronger then savage and lets not forget that savage has some of the most amazing strength feats out there like holding a 150 billion ton mountain over his head.
No, he just has decided to stop using Rulk as a villainous Mary Sue. So he's in his way to jobberdom already, pretty much like it happened to Doomsday.
He killed a Wendigo, killed Abomination, decked a Watcher in the face, beat the crap out of Hulk and made Thor look like a little girl. Then Thor came back and kicked his ass with a little help from savage Hulk.
He dont get weak, he over heats but his punches becomes hotter and stronger. He was basically melting hulks skin and lets not forget what heat does to black adam, just picture what martian manhunter did to black adam face, he basically melted it.
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yea but then adam got pi$$ed and stomped the martian honestly i dont know enough about rulk to state my thoughts actually so i will see how things go on here before i decide
Black Adam wins this, and it is quite evident why he would for anyone who has read/owns the issue arc of Red Hulk, as well as has read/owned the various depictions of Black Adam (be they in his own series, or in his dealings with the JSA).
This is why Black Adam wins:
Rulk is a beast ...no doubt about that. Think of it, the guy is pure ferocity, and not only that but ferocity that has a mind to it. He is not some mindless beast running amok ...he has a sense of purpose to him, and fights smart (a good example being how he basically took Thor into orbit, with Thor hanging onto the war-hammer Mjolnir, meaning that he by-passed the enchantment that prevented anyone who was not worthy from picking up the hammer. After all, it was still Thor holding the hammer).
However, there are some inherent weaknesses to the Red Hulk.
First of all he is still a one-dimensional brick! Sure, he is very strong, and sure, he has had a couple of cases where he ran very fast and blitzed opponents.
However, Black Adam is also extremely strong! He picked up an aircraft carrier and threw it many miles away with one hand! As for people who say that the Red Hulk can blitz, they need to realize that everything is relative. Red Hulk can blitz opponents who have normal speed ....since he can definitely run faster than the base Hulk (who can run at around 300 mph, faster than any production sports-car). However, that is SLOW when compared to a character that can RUN at a clocked speed of MACH 500 (yep ...running ...at mach 500 ...and that is not even flying).
Thus there are two primary concerns:
The first is that the Red Hulk, just like any Hulk, is a one-dimensional character. Sure, in comics he can be depicted slamming the Watcher, and if Loeb had taken sufficient levels of psychotropic drugs, he could have written the Red Hulk has stronger the Galactus, more powerful than the Celestials, and more potent than the Vishanti! After all, it is a fictional character! However, on KMC we have to use logic.
The second thing is that the Red Hulk, unlike the regular Hulk, has a fail-safe in place, whereby the more angry he gets (e.g. during a fight where he exerts himself) the hotter he gets. This was first seen in his fight with Wendigo (where the heat plume was easily picked up via satellite), and obviously came to bite him in the butt when he fought against the Hulk ....where as the Hulk got stronger, the Red Hulk simply got hotter, turning the surrounding soil to glass (melting silicon and fusing it), and the IRONIC thing is that his own heat generation gave him a heat stroke!
However, there are other reasons that make Red Hulk the loser and Black Adam the winner:
One of these other reasons is what I mentioned ...if Black Adam did not want him to, the Red Hulk could not even lay a finger on him. In one issue of WW3, Black Adam was moving over a hundred miles a second! He is exceedingly fast.
He is also an amazing tactician (meaning that the Red Hulk's tactical mind gives no advantage to him, since the other guy is also a good tactician), and he does NOT hold back at all. On KMC we always assume that characters are blood-lusted and are not holding back ....when it comes to Black Adam, that is not necessary because even in COMICS he never holds back and is always bloodlusted. That means from the second the fight begins, BA will be out to kill the Red Hulk.
Also, it is noted that the Red Hulk can be hurt and bleed. Wendigo bit him and caused pain and bleeding. Now, imagine what a super-strong master tactician who LIKES TO RIP PEOPLE APART and is moving at multiples of hundreds of mach numbers would do the the Red Hulk if he grabbed his head at that speed, and with a strength that can launch aircraft carriers in a simple toss, and ripped it off?
However, there is one more thing about Black Adam:
In WW3 this is what the Martian Manhunter says of Black Adam (when Black Adam is going all over the world defeating an assembled cast of heroes):
" There are those among us who are stronger, or faster, or more powerful. None are more ferocious. Black Adam does not pull punches. He has no fear of death, not even his own. Every blow he lands is meant to kill."
This is NOT a fight. Black Adam will win. After all, the Red Hulk has extreme strength, and a brilliant tactical mind. Oh, and he is very savage.
Black Adam has extreme strength, has extreme speed, has a brilliant tactical mind (which is further boosted by the gods that fuel his powers, meaning that not only is he tactical but he is a genius ...something people forget about the marvel family when they are in their god-fueled forms), can fly, can attack from direct as well as obtuse angles, and is so savage that he disassembled entire teams of opponents, ranging from those who were weaker to some who were (as the Manhunter says) more powerful.
In a KMC fight, Black Adam would very quickly kill (yes, kill ...and yes, I know that the Red Hulk has a healing factor) the Red Hulk.
In the same way that the Red Hulk killed Wendigo with extreme prejudice, is the same way that Black Adam would kill the Red Hulk.
In a comic book it would be a nice fight that went on for many panels and several issues ...on KMC, this is a three panel fight (one showing the two standing apart, the second showing the two moving in to fight, the third showing a blurred motion and a decapitated Red head shooting forth into orbit).
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honestly i dont know enough about rulk to state my thoughts actually so i will see how things go on here before i decide
