Um, The astro force has one shotted superman, blocked the omegas, and controlled universal destroying energies on a quantum lvl. It has hurt the star conquerer as well.
His mother box has matter manipulation powers and the ability to alter orion and give him even more abilities.
He can also grow himself giant size amping his energy, strength, and durability.
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TBH I was just thinking of the Astro Harness/Force and all. Left out the MB...it's like 2 in the morning here.
If he just had that, yeah, I think a confident Gladiator would beat him. With the MB tossed in, probably not. IDK. haven't read enough New God stuff to say.
I would think Glads best shot is a h2h encounter since in terms of physical stats he's an equal to Orion. When Orion is written as a brick SS took him down quick using his cosmic powers.
With the AF Orion is a true god, Glads chances are slim at best in the second scenario.
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I think he'd walk through the ****ing Astro Force if he wanted to badly enough. But Orion's got him in overall fighting skill and even experience (considering one's at least ...30,000 years old? And the other is possibly a few thousands.) That's why I said the reverse, that Glads loses scenario 1 and wins in 2.
Interesting but seeing how he can only stalemate current supes and I doubt he can beat Glads. Glads has greater striking power, speed, strength pretty much overall stat-wise. Fighting skill is comparable. I give Orion props because he has the feats to take on badass MAs but (i hate to keep going back to this) seems like he can only stalemate supes or lose. I mean Seems to be Orion has "near superman stats" and closes the gap with his skill.
As to the Astro Force, I do not have intimate knowledge of it but I understand it has considerable defensive capabilities. But then again you maybe right.
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I think the difference is that some posters are putting Glads at the level he is typically portrayed at (which is not above Supes) so Orion should be able to win this by skill/Motherbox.
You are putting him at the max level he has ever been portrayed at (100x lightspeed, 3-shotting a planet) Which would definitely be a deciding factor in the fight.
You're not wrong, this is just a perspective difference.
I don't know what shapes your opinion that glads is mightier than supes, but heres a little heads up: orion has stalemated supes H2H on at least two occasions that i know of, while in crossovers supes has handed both hulk and thor their asses before while both thor and hulk have handed glads his. so logically i will have to say that orion wins both fight scenarios!
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