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Question about Hand 2 Hand Combat

There are a few posters who claim that Thanos amping his punches is somehow not applicable during h2h fights. Now if the thread starter states no amping that is fine. However, when the thread just says h2h then what is the rule. I'm just looking for clarification on the forums rules.

On one hand Thanos is still only punching and still has to hit his opponent whether his punches are energy amped or not. Isn't this similar to the hulk getting more upset... or a hero getting an rush of energy and thus lifting more or punching harder? So, again my question is when Thanos amps his punches does that mean that somehow it's more energy based then h2h thus he can't do it or he can because afterall he's still only punching. Fangirl and a few others have argued this point and I'm looking for Clarification on the rules. Thanks

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There's no rule.


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There's no rule.


Well don't you think there should be some kinda rule or clarification on it. What are people's opinion then?

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Good luck reaching a consensus on this.

It won't happen.


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I think using energy to amp your punches should be allowed and considered viable in H2H unless otherwise specifically stated.

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IMO, a characters ability to amp their punches should be a part of their h2h capabilities. If the thread starter disagrees, they can say so on the OP.


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There really shouldn't be a debate. The responsibility falls soley on the person that starts the thread.

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amping punches,no holding back,get angrier,increasing strength all are pretty much the same thing to me, and are part of a character's h2h abillites.


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USing energy to amp your physical stats but if you using your energy to blast someone with a beam or something that is not H2H. So everything is cool until it goes outside of actual H2h.

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That is obvious as I already stated, when the thread says no amping then no amping. However, most times it's just left at h2h and you've argued that amping shouldn't be allowed and considered h2h. So, clearly I'm referring to when it's not stated then what is the rule or consensus as you have argued no amping even when it's not stated.

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Amping up punches with energy is the same as any kind of power increasing technique. The attack is still a physical one.

That should be assumed for starters, but as others have said, ultimately, the set-up comes down to the thread starter.

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We can't make a rule for this since there are so many variables.

Hulk amps up by the nature of his powers.

Superman can amp with some sunlight.

Silver Surfer can amp himself via power cosmic.

GL's can amp themselves via power rings.


It's ultimately up to the thread starter to make conditions for the thread. But good luck getting people to read the OP after several pages... Best thing to do is add "no amping" or whatever stipulation to the tittle.


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We can't make a rule for this since there are so many variables.

Hulk amps up by the nature of his powers.

Superman can amp with some sunlight.

Silver Surfer can amp himself via power cosmic.

GL's can amp themselves via power rings.


It's ultimately up to the thread starter to make conditions for the thread. But good luck getting people to read the OP after several pages... Best thing to do is add "no amping" or whatever stipulation to the tittle.


That's fine as I agree when it's stated it's obvous and that would help. However, Bada what is your thoughts on whether someone amps there punchs then that means it's not h2h as others have argued? in h2h threads you'll have people that will say show me scans of Thanos not amping his punches and what he can do. It's like they are arguing that amping his punches doesn't count for h2h fighting. So, I was just looking for clarification if this is some rule I don't know about. I view it like the examples you used... people can amp themselves but as long as they are only using h2h that is all that matters.

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There are a few posters who claim that Thanos amping his punches is somehow not applicable during h2h fights. Now if the thread starter states no amping that is fine. However, when the thread just says h2h then what is the rule. I'm just looking for clarification on the forums rules.

On one hand Thanos is still only punching and still has to hit his opponent whether his punches are energy amped or not. Isn't this similar to the hulk getting more upset... or a hero getting an rush of energy and thus lifting more or punching harder? So, again my question is when Thanos amps his punches does that mean that somehow it's more energy based then h2h thus he can't do it or he can because afterall he's still only punching. Fangirl and a few others have argued this point and I'm looking for Clarification on the rules. Thanks
just because one petty idiot gets all upset because thanos punches really hard, doesn't mean the rules have to change all of a sudden.

but expect a thread where one of the stipulations in the op is barring thanos from "amping his punches".


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That's fine as I agree when it's stated it's obvous and that would help. However, Bada what is your thoughts on whether someone amps there punchs then that means it's not h2h as others have argued? in h2h threads you'll have people that will say show me scans of Thanos not amping his punches and what he can do. It's like they are arguing that amping his punches doesn't count for h2h fighting. So, I was just looking for clarification if this is some rule I don't know about. I view it like the examples you used... people can amp themselves but as long as they are only using h2h that is all that matters.
I guess you'd have to show that it's typical for a character to amp punches while in combat and not as a result of any prep. If it's typical of how a certain chatacter fights then it shouldn't be an issue. Something like Captain Marvel or Black Adam using charged punches. I've seen them do it enough to consider it typical.

Anyone who make a thread can state stipulations. Like Marvel with no electric charged punches in a slug fest.


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If it's only used to amp the character's physical strength, it should be okay, but if it does something like cause explosions every time a punch connects, or electrocute them, or drain energy or some other weird thing it shouldn't be allowed


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There are a few posters who claim that Thanos amping his punches is somehow not applicable during h2h fights. Now if the thread starter states no amping that is fine. However, when the thread just says h2h then what is the rule. I'm just looking for clarification on the forums rules.

On one hand Thanos is still only punching and still has to hit his opponent whether his punches are energy amped or not. Isn't this similar to the hulk getting more upset... or a hero getting an rush of energy and thus lifting more or punching harder? So, again my question is when Thanos amps his punches does that mean that somehow it's more energy based then h2h thus he can't do it or he can because afterall he's still only punching. Fangirl and a few others have argued this point and I'm looking for Clarification on the rules. Thanks
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doesn't really matter to me unless op stipulates otherwise. personally I don't see the difference between Thanos amping with energy and say Iron Fist amping with chi, same concept. but that's my opinion you'll never get a consensus


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