you can probably count the combined on panel feats these two characters have, on both of your hands. regardless, it will be quite humorous to see the avid use of ABC logic when the thor fans attempt to justify RKT's power.
it usually goes something like this:
"odin was a galaxy-buster, and RKT had odin's power + teh runes... so he was definitely a galaxy-buster+++!!!"
ie. despite him having NO on panel feats suggestive of the above, ABC logic is usually applied to help boost his level a bit.
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but when superman prime comes up, he is almost always swiftly dismissed [by those same people], due to lack of on panel feats.
ie. the same ABC methodology they use for other characters doesn't apply to superman prime for some reason.
the ABC logic that can be applied to superman prime is the fact that HE is the friggin' battery for the entire superman dynasty. HE is the one who made superman m* [who several people agreed was > RKT] as powerful as he is.
how about, odin empowered mjolnir, stormbreaker and thunderstrike, plus the hammer that red norvel used. then theoretically speaking, RKT could make lots and lots of hammers and give every asgardian one so he'd have an army of thors
Off to a early start with a smear campaign to discredit anyone who votes for RKT.. sweet
Anyway I de believe RKt is far and above odin. But I also Believe SMP is far and above any and all supermen, i mean by definition is is the source of power for all supermen ever...? But it is true that he has never actually do anything, so it is complete speculation. Like atleast RKt did a handful of feats. Oneshotted Mangog with a mere jesture, took off the head of a very amped loki and made him live as just a head, and he ended the cycle of ragnorak (something odin could never have hoped to do), and the gods (forget their title) that looks over even Odin were implied to be far beneath him.
I do agree that these "people" you speak of are mostly just marvel fanboys and straight up trolls. Like with all threads, one should be wary of them.
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RKT is backed on panel my the odinpower itself and the Runes that Thor had more knowledge and power then Odin no ABC logic needed. He defeated the one's above all who for god knows how many thousands of years Odin couldn't all proven and back on panel if your read the arc.
However given all the stuff Superman Prime has done and the ones under him. He should be above RKT.
i could really care less who picks thor. i was just commenting on the differing applications of ABC logic.
because it was established that superman prime was solely responsible for giving superman m* and the rest of the superman dynasty "powers FAR beyond those held by ANY metahuman, ever" - i'm sure you'd agree that superman prime would be much more powerful than superman m*, by proxy. to assume otherwise is quite illogical, imo.
thus, because many people agreed that superman m* > RKT, those same people would also *logically* have to agree that superman prime >> RKT as well.
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and for the record, i'm not saying that ABC logic shouldn't be used in RKT's case. i'm saying that if it is being used for him, it needs to be used for superman prime as well.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Oct 16th, 2009 at 08:09 PM
I agree with you completely. Using one methodology of defining a capabilities should not be used for one side and not the other. As long as it is not some asinine use of "ABC" logic.
I felt that the way you wrote your fist post it made it seem like you wanted to make people believe that RKT claim of power was less of that of SMP.
I personally don't think Supes M* is greater but He is amazing. IMO he is sky father level, maybe near Odin level. But like Superman RKT should be many times stronger than the strongest incarnation of the character.
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