Reality manip is far better/greater imo as you can manip anything including time and space as well as matter along along with others things( this depends on how powerful a warper you are though)
Equals.
Mm in secret wars was affecting the multiverse... Since all things all comprised of molecules... He could even read minds...
Where might mm be useless... Possibly in a universe that had no molecules... But if mm was there he'd still have his own molecules to manipulate
when mjj was dropped into a reality that no longer existed he had nothing to affect... And essentially became powerless as reality in that dimension no longer existed. I also can't remember a reality manipulator reading thoughts
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"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Would beyonder be considered only a reality manipulator or simply someone that had a bunch of powers already like an abstract or Thor or whatnot
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Reality manipulation, its not even close. Now a high level molecular manipulator can beat a low level reality warper but nothing except another high level reality warper, a true omnipotent, or a multiversal abstract can beat a high level reality warper generally.
To summarize: matter manipulation still obeys (to some degree) the laws of thermodynamics and physics. Reality warping does not.
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to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
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__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Yes, a matter manipulator can turn you into water, a reality manipulator can turn you into a glass of water that talks with a french accent and calls itself Henri Depardieu.
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
essentially: molecule manipulation allows a character to create a galaxy. reality manipulation allows a character to create a galaxy... inside of a soda can.
take a matter manipulator at the abstract level and compare him to a reality warper at the universal/multiversal level...
trying to compare the feats of each is a bit... pointless... don't you think.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
How do you compare the feats of two people when one has a greater level of power? For example:
which is better optic blasts like cyclops or heat vision from say superman...
Besides mm there are not many pure matter manipulaters at the levels of what you guys compare to reality warpers...
I can't even think of one. So u guys win I guess?
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
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