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Alexander Luthor Jr. vs Reed Richards
Alexander messed with the Multiverse and laughed off regular Luthor. Can he hang with Richards? Pre and post crisis count for Alex.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:41 AM
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No.
Richards>all.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:44 AM
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I find that hard to believe.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:44 AM
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It is fact.
The AE used Reed's brain to create reality.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:45 AM
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AE?
Feb 28th, 2010 08:47 AM
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Alien Entity.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:51 AM
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What has he created that puts him above everyone else?
Feb 28th, 2010 08:55 AM
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He created ALL reality, just like the Nemesis did using Reed's brain.
Feb 28th, 2010 08:56 AM
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He created ALL reality through AE? What does that prove>
Feb 28th, 2010 08:59 AM
TheTyrant
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AE created ALL reality through Reed...
Feb 28th, 2010 09:00 AM
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This is Reed without AE. Just prep for both. No outside forces invloved.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:01 AM
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What I meant to prove is that Reed's mind is abstract. Even Galactus said it himself during the first Secret Wars.
Reed>All including Brainiac, LuthorS, Thanos and Doom.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:02 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
What I meant to prove is that Reed's mind is abstract. Even Galactus said it himself during the first Secret Wars.
Reed>All including Brainiac, LuthorS, Thanos and Doom.
No
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Feb 28th, 2010 09:03 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheTyrant
What I meant to prove is that Reed's mind is abstract. Even Galactus said it himself during the first Secret Wars.
Reed>All including Brainiac, LuthorS, Thanos and Doom.
Alex's mind is abstract, too. Stated in first crisis.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:04 AM
TheTyrant
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^ Galactus said it in Secret Wars I.
AE used Reed to create all reality.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:05 AM
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Doesn't really prove anything.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:05 AM
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Alexander hardly has the depth and breadth of time to match up to the sheer number of accomplishments. He built Superboy Prime's armor and created a device that allowed him to recreate the multiverse and merge/alter the individual earths as he saw fit, which is pretty much the most ridiculous thing in comics (though needed a lot of different elements to power it, heroes from a bunch of dead universes).
But Reed beats him on sheer consistency and number of feats. You're talking about a guy whose workshop is full of weapons capable of killing Celestials, who has Galactus-stalemating armor, who traverses the multiverse with ease, who designed a device to strip Galactus of his power, etc.
Da guy is crazy, and consistently THE craziest guy in comics. Like the whiz, nobody beats him save for perhaps a few one hit wonders like Alexander Luthor.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:22 AM
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Or Metron. Metron has built the Worlogog. I agree with you on depth.
I'd like to see Alex and Reed teamup and see if they can beat the Anti-Monitor together. Would be cool to see.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:25 AM
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Reed Richards is arguably smarter than Thanos or Doom, and definitely smarter than the "Scientist Supreme" Hank Pym by a mile.
As for this fight, it could go either way.
For all of Reed's feats, I've never seen him design and create something as complex as an actual working multiverse.
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Feb 28th, 2010 09:37 AM
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I don't think there is any 'arguable' about it. He is much, MUCH smarter than Thanos, and he's proven his superiority over Doom time and time again.
And yeah, because Alexander Luthor has one or two things only under his belt, I guess he'd win. Because his one thing is huge. But I'd have trouble giving him the win over Reed, who really just pulls whatever he needs out of his @$$ whenever he needs it.
Feb 28th, 2010 09:51 AM
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