It comes down to something I have voiced on several threads: how badly does Odin want to win?
Because of Odin goes all out and amps himself the way he is capable of doing (drawing the power of Asgard into himself, entering the Destroyer, or by withdrawing the spiritual energies of all the Asgardians into himself), then DP Tyrant and Thanos have no chance at all...
If Odin is content to fight at normal power levels, however, then I still favor Odins team...but it will be an entertaining, drawn out, battle...
Ultimately it comes down to Odin vs DP Tyrant and how fast Thanos can defeat Mangog to assist Tyrant; Thanos beating Mangog in a timely fashion isnt a certainty though as Mangog is a beast physically...
And as Mangog feeds (and amps) via hatred...Odin, DP Tyrant, and Thanos may very well end up amping Mangog if they dont keep their emotions in check.
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Did you see anything in my opening post that leads you to believe Odin entering the destroyer or getting any spirtual energy boost is permitted? I'm not allowing Thanos or Tyrant to prep or get any artifacts, so why would you think Odin can. Odin can amp himself just like Thanos can.. but that is the extent of it.
Where on God's green earth do you get this notion that Odin can take Tyrant and Thanos 2 v 1.. Shoot I think Tyrant will beat Odin by himself.. let alone with Thanos's help it because a massive spite against Odin.
Odins feats are much better than Depowered Tyrants feats...
Not only that, but Odin dominated Thanos to a significantly greater extent than Tyrant did; add those factors up and I think you'll understand why here at KMC, it was decided that both DP Tyrant and Thanos belong in the Trans Tier...and why both are not considered Skyfathers as Odin is.
Dp Tyrant is skyfather level or higher plain and simple. You even referenced a fight that shows exactly who Thanos thought was more powerful. Thanos had no desire to flee (when he could've easily done so, afterall he had already brought Thor to his father to cure) He felt Odin's power and even his stepped up power and walked right through it. Against Tyrant, he decided to flee because he knew Tyrant would kill him. Now compare that to Odin.. No thought of leaving or fearing for his life. That speaks volumes about who Thanos thought was the more poweful of the two. Tyrant has been in what.. 8-10 comics in total.. now compare that to Odin, and it's clear why Odin has more feats. Yet NONE of his combat feats are as impressive as who Tyrant beat. Tyrant is undefeated in vs. situations. He lost only because of one of the most powerful artifacts in Marvel.. the UN... The same UN that took two shots to kill him. Him beating... Surfer, Morg, Terrax, BRB, J.O.H., Gladiator, Gany, Thanos and Galactus poops all over anybody Odin has defeated in the same period of time.
I hope you're not equating that to some type of uber durability feat for Tyrant. The UN didn't kill him in the first shot, because Morg had no idea what the hell he was doing with it.
Having a weapon in your possession doesn't mean you automatically know how to use it properly. Morg isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Thanos couldnt even bulge or even scratch Odin; Thanos even got PIMP SLAPPED by Odin...but Thanos was laying some wood on Tyrant...that tells me all I need to know.
Thanos was Odins b***h...plain and simple.
Thanos didnt want to give up against Odin because his ego couldnt stand getting beat up like that; therefore Thanos was determined to fight on until he did "something" significant to Odin (which he completely FAILED to do)...
Against DP Tyrant, Thanos saw that he could harm him and make Tyrant feel his blows...so he was able to leave that fight with a clear mind.
Odin>>DP Tyrant
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Of course Thanosi would try and say that; he blatantly LIES, and has an extensive history of this mind you, to try and make Thanos (and to a lesser extent DP Tyrant) seem to be more powerful than he (they) truly are...
I have a history of lying eh? haha that is rich coming from you LordofBlunder. I guess you don't really lie, just too stupid to understand points and make logically coherent posts. Now, when I said it took two shots to kill Dp Tyrant.. which part of this wasn't true? That was exactly how it went down. The joking between me and Galan, was just that, joking between me and him.
Now onto your blunderous posts.. that once again I need to tool…
These are the relevant points on the matter of Thanos vs Odin and Thanos vs Tyrant
1. Thanos wasn't going there to kill or ko Odin.. he needed and wanted his help. Again Tyrant, he was going there to fight him and had studied him prior. See where I'm going blunder? Thanos prepped for Thanos.. against Odin he didn't even want to fight him, didn't prep and needed his help.
2. Odin did well in the fight but at no point had Thanos concerned for his life or wanting to quit. Not at any point was there any narration or indication of this. In fact, when Odin raised the stakes and brought out his spear… Thanos walked right through to prove a point. He can take whatever Odin can dish out and woudn't go down nor yield. Point was proven. Against a Tyrant (someone he prepped for).. when Tyrant raised the stakes.. Thanos admitted on panel that Tyrant would kill him if he stuck around. Some say, this was even an AMPED Thanos.. not just prepped but also amped by the orb. Huge Huge Huge difference in the power Thanos felt from both. One didn't have him even thinking about retreating or giving up.. The other made him leave for fear of his life.
3. Since you think Odin has better feats… and combat feats no less.. Please show me one 10 comic book run where Odin beat a comparable group to what Tyrant did… Tyrant in that run beat… Surfer, Brb, Glads, Morg, Terrax, J.o.h., gayn… with ease.. They were no threat what so ever to him. Then he proceeds to get the better of Thanos. Then he proceeds to get the better of Galactus. Not a starving weak Galactus.. no no.. In fact, it was a well-fed prepped Galactus who got punked. Galactus backed down for the first encounter and let Tyrant take his herald for fear of Galaxies being destroyed. Now compare that to how Galactus as acted around Odin.. he acts condescending to him. In fact, when Doom had Galactus power.. Odin was easily and promptly one shot.
These are the key factors that make Tyrant seem more powerful than Odin. Now I'm not saying it's by a lot or a huge difference. What I am saying though, is that judging by their common foe.. Thanos.. Tyrant made Thanos leave for fear of his life.. Odin (in a much longer fight) never had Thanos concerned or fear for his life.
I have a hard time believing that Tyrant is below Sky Father. Thanos is Trans, but Tyrant is well above him. The tier system pertaining to Tyrant should be changed, after all, what system is perfect? Let us also not forget, or attempt to remove the Orb of power from the equation. Thanos was being amped by an external power source when he faced Tyrant.
Against Odin, Thanos went in with no help at all. Was this because he was unaware of Odin's power? Wouldn't that be completely out of character for Thanos? Come now, Thanos is so good at strategics that he was able to conquer the Universe on at least 2 separate occasions. Nah Thanos knew who he was up against, and although Odin was above him, he did not fear for his life. Against Tyrant, he took extra precautions. Then again the guy that fought Odin wasn't even the real Thanos according to the self titled comic arc.
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