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Team 7 Vs Weapon X

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team 7 stomp, they got midnighter, nemesis, 2 backlash, warblade, dane and abrose chase, some of the team members are not even street level anymore. on the other side you only have romulus and wolverine, possibly deadpool on team 7 level. midnighter, nemesis and warblade could take this team by themselves.
weapon x is outclassed here.


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Midnighter and a standard equipment Nemesis would lose to anyone on the Weapon X side. Nemesis MIGHT squeak out a win on Deadpool or Zero. Warblade is definitely a threat though.

Planetary is on my list of things to read, but I do not know much about Chase. I never followed Dane beyond the original Team 7 and related stuff, so I can't speak with authority on him either. From what I understand, Dane and Chase might make this lopsided for Team 7.

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midnighter has fought more powerful foes than weapon x in authority, on daily basis. he could even took on memebers in authority like apollo, with his battle computer he could calculate out a way to win any of the weapon x members. nemesis is a trained kherubim fighter with thousands years of training. she's a master combatant with extremely fast agility, her nemesis swords are forged from shards of the Creation Engine that can cut through any material in the universe. plus as an kheran she has 10 tons strength like zealot. so i wouldn't suprise if the sword cut through adamantium. both of midnighter and nemesis can take any of the weapon x one on one and winning. with midnighter Battle Precognition and nemesis psychic power I could see them being team buster. warblade can shape his blade infinity sharp with his own crazy durability and strength. he could hurt captain atom for god sake.
the only problem with weapon x are most of the members have healing factors, but any of the team 7 members has encounter that before. they just need to go for the knock out or immobilized them.


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midnighter has fought more powerful foes than weapon x in authority

ABC logic is extremely flawed. Not to mention thats wrong and I like to see you prove it.

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, on daily basis. he could even took on memebers in authority like apollo,

Which is is full of CIS due to them being lovers......Also do you really wanna play this game with a character like Wolverine who foughten, gladiator, hulk, namor ect.

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with his battle computer he could calculate out a way to win any of the weapon x members.

Just becuase he can conculate what could happen does not mean he can make it happer, nor if he winner in the scenarios that are being played out in his mind. He a guy with low superhuman stength trying to out down Wolverine before wolverine guts the crap out of him. Even if he hit him 3 to 1 which wont happen he still go down well before wolverine.

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,nemesis is a trained kherubim fighter with thousands years of training.

so? does not change the fact nemesis is


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she's a master combatant with extremely fast agility, her nemesis swords are forged from shards of the Creation Engine that can cut through any material in the universe. plus as an kheran she has 10 tons strength like zealot. so i wouldn't suprise if the sword cut through adamantium.

No evidence they could cut through adamatium. Also Zealot is not 10 tons and has zero feats to back her up being stronger then Wolverine let a lone 10 tons.

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both of midnighter and nemesis can take any of the weapon x one on one and winning.

No they cant, not the majority.

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with midnighter Battle Precognition and nemesis psychic power I could see them being team buster.

You are making his ability out to be much better then it is. And Nemesis powers would have zero effect on anyone on team x all of which have TP blockers.

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warblade can shape his blade infinity sharp with his own crazy durability and strength. he could hurt captain atom for god sake.

Still matter little several people on team x would maul him.

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the only problem with weapon x are most of the members have healing factors, but any of the team 7 members has encounter that before. they just need to go for the knock out or immobilized them.

Not to this level on opponents this skill, fast , durable and experienced.

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Originally posted by StyleTime Midnighter and a standard equipment Nemesis would lose to anyone on the Weapon X side. Nemesis MIGHT squeak out a win on Deadpool or Zero. Warblade is definitely a threat though. Planetary is on my list of things to read, but I do not know much about Chase. I never followed Dane beyond the original Team 7 and related stuff, so I can't speak with authority on him either. From what I understand, Dane and Chase might make this lopsided for Team 7.


read it. ambrose is certainly the most formidable here.

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Everyone dies except Grifter and Deadpool. smile


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midnighter has fought more powerful foes than weapon x in authority, on daily basis. he could even took on memebers in authority like apollo, with his battle computer he could calculate out a way to win any of the weapon x members. nemesis is a trained kherubim fighter with thousands years of training. she's a master combatant with extremely fast agility, her nemesis swords are forged from shards of the Creation Engine that can cut through any material in the universe. plus as an kheran she has 10 tons strength like zealot. so i wouldn't suprise if the sword cut through adamantium. both of midnighter and nemesis can take any of the weapon x one on one and winning. with midnighter Battle Precognition and nemesis psychic power I could see them being team buster. warblade can shape his blade infinity sharp with his own crazy durability and strength. he could hurt captain atom for god sake.
the only problem with weapon x are most of the members have healing factors, but any of the team 7 members has encounter that before. they just need to go for the knock out or immobilized them.

I'm well aware of who these guys are, apart from Chase.

Midnighter is good, but Wolverine is just a bad match up for him. His skills are in the same tier as Zealot's, he has that pesky healing factor, and his skeleton is unbreakable.

As much as I like Nemesis, she is nowhere near the 10 ton range. Neither is Zealot. With standard equipment/CIS, she runs into the same problem as Midnighter against the Healing Brigade. Her psychic powers are limited to empathy which won't be of much use here.

I already agreed that Warblade is beastly. He can't carry his whole team though.

The healing factors are a large problem. Weapon X has a skill advantage over everyone except Nemesis, so going for the KO will be difficult.

That said, Dane and Chase may be deciding factors here (along with Warblade). Could someone weigh in on that? Those two prevent me from deciding who wins.
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Everyone dies except Grifter and Deadpool. smile

Then they have to fight though.

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I couldn't say much for the rest of team 7 but backlash can pretty much take on anyone of those guys one on one w/ CIS off 2 if not 3. If they don't finished Dane really quick, I think it would be a quick fight.. The problem is how they're going to take him out, his got invulnerability, tk shields for defensive measure.. It would be even fight if U take out Dane and replace him with say Ripclaw..


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CIS is on unless stated other wise.


Also invulnerability wont mean much against team x who many of which posses adamatium weapondry.


Also think people are serously over looking Agent Zero.

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Also invulnerability wont mean much against team x who many of which posses adamatium weapondry.


who else besides logan?


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who else besides logan?

X-23, Romulas, agent zero and maybe deadpool and wild child.

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I couldn't say much for the rest of team 7 but backlash can pretty much take on anyone of those guys one on one w/ CIS off 2 if not 3. If they don't finished Dane really quick, I think it would be a quick fight.. The problem is how they're going to take him out, his got invulnerability, tk shields for defensive measure.. It would be even fight if U take out Dane and replace him with say Ripclaw..


It's going to be a pain getting through those shields. Dane is one powerful dude. I think he might be the most formidable instead of Ambrose.

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Ambrose, Dane and Warblade could potentially solo. While none of the others could take the majority against more than one of the Marvel characters, they are more than enough to cement the win for Ambrose, Dane and Warblade.

Switch Romulus and Wildchild with Psylock to counter Dane, and Phantomex to counter Ambrose and it is a closer fight.


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Ambrose, Dane and Warblade could potentially solo. While none of the others could take the majority against more than one of the Marvel characters, they are more than enough to cement the win for Ambrose, Dane and Warblade.

Switch Romulus and Wildchild with Psylock to counter Dane, and Phantomex to counter Ambrose and it is a closer fight.


Who would win in a battle against Fantomex and Ambrose?

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Who would win in a battle against Fantomex and Ambrose?


Depends. Does Fantomex trap Ambrose in his "misdirection," before Ambrose traps him in his time distortion field? Who ever goes first wins... or if it happens at the same time stalemate with Ambrose thinking he won.


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Ambrose, Dane and Warblade could potentially solo. While none of the others could take the majority against more than one of the Marvel characters, they are more than enough to cement the win for Ambrose, Dane and Warblade.

Switch Romulus and Wildchild with Psylock to counter Dane, and Phantomex to counter Ambrose and it is a closer fight.

That's about what I suspected the outcome to be. I just didn't get how someone thought Midnighter was the big threat when guys like Warblade and Dane are around.

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That's about what I suspected the outcome to be. I just didn't get how someone thought Midnighter was the big threat when guys like Warblade and Dane are around.

you mean me? I never mentioned Dane because I'm not familiar with wetworks. midnighter is a big threat because I don't think character like wolverine or x-23 could take him. he got tons of crazy feats that could put him on the level. plus he could run the fight 100 ways in his head and find the winning solution before the fight start, I wouldn't be surprise if he disarm any of the weapon x with his skill.

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If Midnighter ran a fight between himself and Wolverine a billion times in his head, all he would find is the billion different ways Wolverine was about to kick his ass.


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