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The Void vs 3 Heralds

The Void

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The Silver Surfer, Thor, Beta Ray Bill

Personally, I think its pretty clear that the Void gets wrecked here, but I'm wondering what everyone else thinks.

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Both SS and Thor have more consistent high end feats than Void does.

Non PIS or jobbing, either one solos.


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SS and Thor has more consistent feats than Void.

Non PIS or jobbing, either one solos.


Thank God there are other sane people on this board.

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I really wish What If #200 meant something here.


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Void wins.


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I really wish What If #200 meant something here.


Why?


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Why?


cuz sentry was ripping through hero like paper....thor included


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and void wins this


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cuz sentry was ripping through hero like paper....thor included
He was pretty much doing the same thing in canon. That is untill Loki showed up and saved them before getting torn to pieces. Siege and DA made it clear Void is above heralds.


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Neither ss nor Thor can solo the void, to think they can is pretty delusional and I'm a big fan of both characters while I'm not a fan of the void. it's ok even if juvenile to hate the void cuz he was a shitty character, it's not ok however to project the lack of quality in his characterization onto his power level in attempt to further express this juvenile hatred.

Both Thor and SS having more consistent high end feats than the void clearly arises due to their far longer periods of existence. Moreover, the void/ sentry is a character who was being steadily developed throughout his history and whose power level paralleled this development. The peak of this development came during the dark reign and siege issues where the sentry had come to terms with the void persona and was fully realizing his potential. To try to disregard the feats of the void performed when he had fully realized his powers on the basis of it being inconsistent with his showings from his earlier years in which his pysche prevented him from realizing that his potential, is intellectually disingenuous and quite frankly a pretty pathetic stance.

Thor and surfers high feats are nice, but in terms of battle practicality have little to no relevance here. Neither of them can stop void from doing the molecule man treatment as molecule man exceeds both of them in regards to levels of molecular control and his showings just prior to sentry/void dissipating him, still re-enforce this. The same goes for brb.

Void wins


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very well said, naija.


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Why, because the Void was more ruthless? I didn't see Void doing anything in Siege that Thor or the SS couldn't have done if they were dicks like the Void. If Thor wanted to tear apart Ares, he could. Its been stated in comics many times Thor could kill many other heroes quite easily if he had wanted to. Look at what his MUCH weaker clone did to Goliath. Thor could be doing that all the time. The difference being, he's a hero.

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Both SS and Thor have more consistent high end feats than Void does.

Non PIS or jobbing, either one solos.
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Thank God there are other sane people on this board.


What? They lose, badly.


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What? They lose, badly.


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Why, because the Void was more ruthless? I didn't see Void doing anything in Siege that Thor or the SS couldn't have done if they were dicks like the Void. If Thor wanted to tear apart Ares, he could. Its been stated in comics many times Thor could kill many other heroes quite easily if he had wanted to. Look at what his MUCH weaker clone did to Goliath. Thor could be doing that all the time. The difference being, he's a hero.



I dont think i even mentioned Ares once in my post. Neither Thor nor SS could tear apart the molecules of molecule man...ever. Heck neither of them could even do the same thing to Loki. This has nothing do with being more ruthless, he was more powerful plain and simple.


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Why?


All above already said what I would've said.
What If #200's feats state that Sentry/Void had to consume a large amount of power in order to kill a god. The issue simply changed the fact that Sentry killed Ares earlier than he did during the siege.

Sentry/Void simply killed every other hero in his path because the so called being with an energy output of a million exploding suns lost such reserves when he killed Ares during the normal event.
Void at the end of that issue consumed the Earth and proceeded to eradicate everything else.

In a forum fight Sentry/Void has no such reserves because forum fights don't include What Ifs and other alternate reality situations.
Plus Robert's suicidal tendencies. wink


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I mention Ares because that's what most Void fans seem to cream their pants to. And yes, the SS or Thor COULD do that to Loki IMO, if they were killers.

Yes, that's amazing that Void beat MM. Guess what, Thor's beaten Galactus twice that I know of. He's broken the head of a Celestial. The Surfer has defeated (killed) Primordial gods.

And btw the Void shouldn't be able to kill Molecule Man either. But hey, Spiderman shouldn't be able to beat the classic Juggernaut, Heralds of Galactus, and the Hulk, but that's why we have the phrase "bad writing". After Void got the Helicarrier dropped on his head, Thor could have ended him right there, but he didn't want to. He flat out said he wouldn't kill him. And not only that, but Thor had gotten beaten down prior to his fight with the Void by a team that included at least 2 guys who had each beaten the Hulk one on one in the past while the sentry was sneak attacking him from the air.

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I likes what I sees.

Void wins this.


All above already said what I would've said.
What If #200's feats state that Sentry/Void had to consume a large amount of power in order to kill a god. The issue simply changed the fact that Sentry killed Ares earlier than he did during the siege.

Sentry/Void simply killed every other hero in his path because the so called being with an energy output of a million exploding suns lost such reserves when he killed Ares during the normal event.
Void at the end of that issue consumed the Earth and proceeded to eradicate everything else.

In a forum fight Sentry/Void has no such reserves because forum fights don't include What Ifs and other alternate reality situations. Plus Robert's suicidal tendencies. wink


Yeah, and based on evidence gathered from What Ifs I can probably make a case that Rogue can beat Odin.

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thor cant tear ares apart. hell no

a thor with 10x strength took like 6-7 blows to kill ares


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thor cant tear ares apart. hell no

a thor with 10x strength took like 6-7 blows to kill ares


You should go to the Thor respect thread on this site and look under the "Restraint" section. And the thread doesn't even have what I'd consider the best scans demonstrating Thor's restraint either.

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