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Originally posted by psycho gundam
"last thread ever" was a lie

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
..............last high herald thread to be exact

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
The First Avenger and The Caped Crusader are patrolling the streets of our nations beloved big apple when they happen upon two hulkin monstrosities, Goliath from the Gargoyles and Leonardo of the TMNT.


Rogers has his shield
Bruce batarangs, grappling hook....thats it
Leo his katana


cis is on, who wins?


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2nd scenario
Goliath, Ramona
Leonardo, Raphael

vs

Cap, Winter Soldier (gets a k-bar)
Bruce, Nightwing (no special equipment other than batarangs and grappling hooks)


all combatants are bloodlusted, cis is off, and they are trying to kill...




3rd scenario


Last Man Standing between all combatants




also in no way are the gargoyles affected by the sun

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
is this comic version or tv show and if tv which one? Because it makes a pretty big difference what version of TMNT you use.

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Originally posted by the ninjak
Fight 1.
Goliath liked to make alot of noise once in the vicinity of his target not like it matters considering they are looking at each other.

Goliath aint beating Cap, he winded the Hulk. And Goliath and crew got hassled on occasions by the Wolf Pack.

Cap defeats Goliath. Batman keeps Leo distracted by keeping the high ground until Cap can aid him.

Win for Cap and Bats.

Fight 2.

A much tougher fight for the Marvel/DC team.
Bruce and Nightwing rinse and repeat against the turtles by keeping the high ground while Cap and WS have a tougher time considering WS only has a knife. So Batman and Knightwing must supply distractions/Batarangs against the Gargoyles while Cap cleans house. With WS dealing deathblows upon such distractions from the sky by Batman and KW. Keeping the Gargoyles from climbing terrain wont be difficult. Giving Cap and Bats killer intent is also a monstrous edge in their favor.

Win for Cap/WS Bats/NW considering they have a killer with protection (WS)while the Gargoyles have a killer who can't deal a deathblow(Ramona).

Fight 3.

Cap.

Note We need more clarification on which universe the turtles belong to.

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
comic





fight 1

Hmmm...i really dont see stealth as an issue, and with CIS on imo Goliath should be able to physically take current cap down, whenever i see his fights against metas save spiderman, he's not really that impressive to me, and his wins always seem circumstantial, honestly i didnt forsee him battling Goliath to begin with, since Bruce has familiarity with Man-Bat imo Goliath and him would be inclined to battle each other, with Goliath gaining a slight maj

The Leonardo vs Cap confrontation imo would be alot better since the turtle has his sword plus his natural durability, the strength edge (nods to Leo) isnt great enough to be a hindering factor, but combined with his durability i see Leo takin it, since cap would be limited to blunt force attacks


more on the other bouts later

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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Overall Leonardo has been protrayed as a low level superhuman. The comic really covers so much of his character.

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Originally posted by jalek moye
Why aren't we using the tv show version for a cross genre thread?

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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No he wasent. Not in the comics, in fact author on there sight which no longer up had them stated at Olympic level stats. They did literrally nothing in the comics to suggest superhuman stats in any area sane newer run and even those are far from consistent.