Savage Hulk starts at 100 tons, but he won't have the time to reach the needed amount of durability to take out Nova, who could fly around and attack him from a good distance. Additionally to that I don't see Savage Hulk getting past Nova Prime's shields.
Base Savage Hulk is in the millions or tons range strength wise. He has the fts proving this. As far as this fight goes, Nova is losing this, he doesn't have a way of stopping Hulk minus bfring.
TBH, handbooks mean jack shit when it comes to power levels generally. Most of the time they contradict stuff that's happened in actual comics (which should be the primary source for things such as power levels).
That being said, Rider should win this unless Hulk amps pretty rapidly (which is possible) and manages to connect with him.
Rider can take Hulk's punches as well as anyone at the herald level can. Pissed or not. Him getting up close with savage is not some insurmountable challenge.
Since these two only have had a couple of brief scuffles in their histories, let's look at some things that may give us better insight as to how this fight could go. First let's establish that Rider can stand up to Hulk's power.
Sphinx no sells the Things punch, and then humiliates him in such a way that leaves no doubt as to who the superior of the two is physically.
It doesn't get much clearer then that. Even at his base classic levels the sphinx if far stronger then Grimm, and I would argue savage hulk as well. Unless someone is going to sell me that Savage Hulk in a calm state would stand there, catch the Thing's punch like a child and then proceed to casually crush it while monologuing. So now that we know the kind of strength he has, let's see how Rider holds up...
Ok so not bad. He takes it on the chin, he's just fine and even manages to return the favor a little bit.
Korg is considered by many here to have Savage Hulk level strength. Not sure how accurately that is but we do know that he's pretty damn strong. He koed Wonderman for example.
Nova isn't taking this easily by any means. And if he sleeps on Hulk, his going to be in trouble. If the comic calls for it, Hulk can start out with Thor/Superman level strength or reach it in moments.
Imo, he'd use his superior speed, and more versatile power set to dispose of the Hulk some distance away. He could try an all or nothing type tactic for a knock out. If that doesn't work, or he starts a pissing contest, he'd be in trouble. But I think Nova's too experienced at this point to try something like that, it'd mean underestimating his opponent.
As for the fight Savage Hulks level is usually dependant on his opponent as he lacks the mental capacity of the current Hulk to outright dominate his opponents from the get-go unless there is motivation for him becoming enraged i.e. his friends being hurt.
By "baseline" Hulk I assume the thread starter means Hulk isn't enraged any more than he normally is, in this scenario I would favour Nova but Savage Hulk can certainly win here also.
Ok now hold up. I just posted a good number of scans here making -in my eyes at least- a pretty decent case, and I get a guy saying Nova loses via thunderclap? Seriously? That's either straight up lowballing or a lack of basic knowledge of the character.
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