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Originally posted by zopzop
A PISless Firelord can beat the tar out of Superman. I see Superman getting the upper hand at first, then I see Firelord putting 2 and 2 together, then the fight is over.

Firelord for the majority 6/10 in Scenario 1.

He loses the other 3, not fair really

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Originally posted by zopzop
A PISless Firelord can beat the tar out of Superman. I see Superman getting the upper hand at first, then I see Firelord putting 2 and 2 together, then the fight is over.

Firelord for the majority 6/10 in Scenario 1.

He loses the other 3, not fair really

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Originally posted by h1a8
Superman would physically beat the tar out of Firelord. He is far stronger and far faster in combat.

Why would you even think that firelord wins against someone who's feats dwarf him so much? That's just pure bias.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Because he's gone toe to toe vs Thor on multiple occasions and swatted Mjolnir away like it was a child's toy.

A PISless Firelord would be a terror, especially against solar based characters like Superman.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Going toe to toe with Thor doesn't mean that Superman's feats don't dwarf that. Ulik went toe to toe with Thor too on multiple occasions, so has Hulk. ABC logic doesn't work and if it did then Superman would still beat the tar out of firelord since he can possibly beat Thor.

Firelord didn't swat it away with his hand so it means nothing. Give Superman the staff and he would swat Mjolnir away even with more power. Any class 100 (even Thing) can swat Mjolnir away if they had an indestructible object to do so.

LOL, at you valuing swatting Mjolnir away with a device as being greater than anything Superman has ever done. Shame on you.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Going toe to toe with Thor doesn't mean that Superman's feats don't dwarf that. Ulik went toe to toe with Thor too on multiple occasions, so has Hulk. ABC logic doesn't work and if it did then Superman would still beat the tar out of firelord since he can possibly beat Thor.

Firelord didn't swat it away with his hand so it means nothing. Give Superman the staff and he would swat Mjolnir away even with more power. Any class 100 (even Thing) can swat Mjolnir away if they had an indestructible object to do so.

LOL, at you valuing swatting Mjolnir away with a device as being greater than anything Superman has ever done. Shame on you.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman doesn't need writer armour to compete with other heralds.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman doesn't need writer armour to compete with other heralds.

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Originally posted by carver9
Looking at fts...Thor>>>Wonder Woman but you give Wonder Woman the nod against Thor. Looking at fts, Hulk>>> all Doomsday (minus HP PROBABLY) but you give Doomsday the win over Hulk. Looking at fts, Thanos>>>Darkseid but you tend to throw out what Doomsday did to Darkseid as some indication of what he will do to Thanos. Fts are good and all but Superman showings are more consistent than Firelord. The minimum showings firelord does have proves that he can hang with Superman. He has given Surfer and Thor HELL on multiple of occasions.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Depends on what herald. Against a flying brick that's the humanoid equivalent to a small star (complete control over heat, light, gravity, EM spectrum, etc...), he needs that and more.

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Stop giving opinions like they're facts.



Why? He's fought energy manipulators before. And even IF he'd beat, say, the first Superman on the list, are you going to argue that he beats the other three?