It should be Spider-Man every single time, but Cap's jobber aura is big, soo big...
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It's like you're trying to argue that Spiderman is so powerful that Cap can't handle him, he's not Superman. The only big difference is strength and it doesn't mean anything if he can't hit him.
Oh and it's not a jobber aura if hes been doing stuff like that his whole entire superhero career. Thats just you not liking what happens on panel. I guess Hulk doesn't have class 100 strength which gets stonger the angrier he gets.
Ok don't know about that. I kinda see what you mean. Cap strength limit should be 2 tons but you really could argue that it goes into 3, but I think that would be going too far...but you could argue it.
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Cap beats up Warpath and the U-Foes before lunch so I figure he can take bugboy easily enough.... with no shield, one hand tied behind his back, his right leg in a cast, blindfolded and a hot potato in his mouth.
At best, Cap is class 2. Spider-Man is, on paper, class 10 but he has lifted way more than that.
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On paper, he's listed as "peak human", but through actual displayed feats, he absolutely craps on that label. The guy's definitively superhuman. Not Spider-Man range, imo, but definitely beyond anything remotely human.
Yes, they are. Spiderman has his Spidey sense. But Cap's senses are so heightened that it doesn't matter. This is the same guy who is stated on panel to be able to bullet time specifically because he 'sees faster', than normal men.
Absolutely not. Cap is FAR above class 2.
2 tons is just a mid-to-large 4 door car.
That is nothing compared to the weights Cap has handled.
Spiderman's best strength feat is probably bracing a mid-sized building from collapsing, and from my recollection Cap has a feat or two doing the same kinda thing.
Their average, is also fairly comparable. Breaking steel chains, busting through steel doors etc.
In a feat war, I guarantee you that Cap won't look much worse than Spidey.
Well, like I said, class 2. Class 3 on a very, very good day. That's far above peak human.
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Spider-Man. After Cap's superior skill and experience let him land one or two good blows, the faster, stronger Pete gets serious, sharp and acro-spider-blitzes ftw. Otherwise, Cap's edge to win involves tactics (eg, nerve hits) and psy ops (eg, piss Parker off so he gets angry and careless). Cap is a thinking fighter; SM can be a thinking fighter.
With shield I could see a tie. Without it, definitely Spidey.
At least this is how I'd write it.
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He was going by feats, not bios, when he listed Cap's strength as 2tons. 2 tons is just Cap's average strength, not his top. IMO, Cap can be as strong as about 5tons, based off feats.
Spidey edges Cap in both.
But in a fight where Spidey can use webbing then it's a stomp.
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