One Celestial vs 100,000 Trans characters? This is actually a tough one for me. Say 100 Sundipped kryptonians could beat a skyfather for the sake of argument. That would mean we have the equivalent of maybe 1,000 skyfathers here. I think the Celestial loses.
I'm not saying it's a hard and fast rule, but it's the only way I can think of to make sense of this many characters involved in a fight. I also think I was being VERY conservative saying that 100 Sundipped Kryptonians could beat one skyfather (generous to the skyfather). I realize other things could come into play here, but as far as I've seen Celestials fight, 98% of the time they fire incredibly powerful energy blasts, and they always seen very slow to react. I highly doubt Arishem is going to do something like turn the sun red, as it seems highly out of character, and with the sundip I don't think it would matter much anyway.
If you have another way to look at this fight, I'd love to hear it.
Based on their fight with the Pre-Retcon Beyonder , I wouldn't say that in a combat situation , they would be too slow to react .
They generally appear too slow to react , only when they are faced with beings , whom they don't even bother to notice , let alone take seriously as a threat in a fight .
Agreed Superman is more powerful, but an average kryptonian is still a low to mid herald. I can't believe a 5 minute long sundip makes them just high heralds. But I guess there's no way to prove it. Also, it's also hard to judge how long Superman sundipped for to make him that powerful, but it didn't seem to be very long at all.
Last edited by PillarofOsiris on Jul 23rd, 2012 at 02:05 AM
Well, here's the question we can ask. If Ursa, for example, sundipped for 5 minutes would she wipe the floor with regular Superman? I would tend to think "yes".
Aren't all Kryptonians equal besides Superman? I always thought he was more powerful because of being a direct descendent of Rao. Has Zod ever beaten multiple kryptonians before like Superman has?
Superman being a direct descendant of Rao is something that's mentioned barely a handful of times and also something I'd wager isn't the primary reason why Superman > other Kryptonians.
Superman's experience and skill using his powers and constant exposure to yellow sun are cited as being reasons he's > other Kryptonians moreso than the Rao explanation.