Full-Powered Spectre vs Post Retcon Living Tribunal
Seeing how my joke threads are... not well recieved ive decided to just to a tradtional one that i think should be talked about more
Gods Wrath vs Gods Judgement
I personally say they are equal but i give a few rules
1.) They meet in indisclosed megaverse were they are free to do whatever
2.) Besides a power boost they are given no help from Presence or TOAA (because it would be a stalemate)
3.) No using stupid PIS like Spectre getting beat by Emperor Joker or Living Tribunal just doing nothing to stop Thanos.
4.) They see each others multiverse as a threat and are willing to kill to protect their multiverse and neither are aware of eithers connection to God nor do they care. They are bloodlusted to the MAX
I more along talking about after the Secret Wars 2 event, where he apparently became the strongest character in the Marvel after Beyonder was "retcon pencilled" by Marvel. Also i just see him as more powerful nowadays
And i using the version of Spectre that
A.) Has a power boost from the Presence
B.) The one that supposed to be strong enough to beat Mxyzptlk a being who is pretty much Omniversal in power.
Speculation you cry... Well i guess but Spectre is pretty powerful and if he is powered by the Presence a little he could put up a fair fight.
and Spectre doesnt exactly apply to the rules of the Multiverse now does he. I think if he has the power to wipe out all magic in the 5th Dimension he pretty much goes beyond the DC Multiverse. Heck he was stated to be powerful enough to exist beyond infinity and managed to redo all of the damage PC Superman did after he nearly destroyed the DC Megaverse
Again that can be pointed the fact that every time they fought Spectre was weakened or had a human host holding him down. Its been stated without this he is the second most powerful being in DC at full power. And THAT is saying a lot when youve got an entire dimension of Mxy to deal with.
Also i compare Mxy to Pre Retcon Beyonder. And i remember Beyonder making LT his btich.
Didnt in Day of Vengeance he remove all the magic in the known DC Multiverse and 5th Dimension thearby removing powers from the Wizard Shazam, Phantom Stranger, Mxyzptlk, Batmite, and Zatanna each of which are without doubt Universe possibly Multiverse+ in power? Thats pretty damn impressive if you ask me. Even so i am just speculating and im not saying that Spectre would "ZOMG CURBSTOMP LIVING TRI-BUTTHOLE DC FOREVERZ ! ! #@@#[email protected]@$E" Im just saying logically they are pretty equal. Im just saying which one could find a weakness in the other because they obviously arent going beat each otehr conventionally
Classic Beyonder who was on another level and is greater than Mxy ,and so is Living Tribunal. Unlike Spectre the Living Tribunal is the supreme being in Marvel Omniverse, as where the Spectre dosen't have that type of jurisdiction, like his counter part LT.
At best I see LT, if it's in the MU LT rage stomps him, in DC Spectre might win but will have to work very hard for it and their still a chance he could still lose.
Didnt WF Mxy destroy the Omniverse (Mxy said "And after that i destroyed everything no more Alternate Universes no more Infinite realities, Just you and ME" in a game of tag with Bat Mite. Thats not something to dwelve into lightly. I would put that WF Mxy is at least Omniversal level and thats the only time Spectre straight up lost to Mxy (though it is argued that if could have been differently if he was at full power)
Also didnt Marvel vs DC prove that they were equal in term of their repsective multiverses.
That's why we have two versions of Beyonder... Before the Retconned,the Beyonder was the most powerful character in comic book history a distant second was Crisis on Infinite Earth Anti-Monitor and Classic Molecule Man, these three alone would sh** MXy and the LT and Spectre.
At height of power Classic Beyonder would have rage stomp Mxy PC DC universe and Anti Monitor with a thought.
Now back on topic, LT wins he is more consistant in all of his appearance, where Spectre gets raped pretty much by anybody these days, which is a disgrace.
If Beyonder was SOOOO powerful, How did he get retconned? Because TOAA (canon wise) probably just got tired of him. And again wasnt the idea that the PR Beyonder imagined he beat the Celestials and wasnt that powerful at all?
Im no counting for consistancy, and counting which at FULL POWER would win. And even then im kinda giving Spectre a slight power boost to make it more even