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Sixth_Winged
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Rao gauntlet

Cythonna keeps getting tossed around lately so i'd figure her nearest equivalence needs to get the limelight too.

Rao Fights as follows

herald>trans>skyfater>semiabstracts

1. Voidtry
2. Silver Surfer
3. Thanos
4. Darkseid
5. The Serpent (marvel)
6. Zeus (dc)
7. Shazam
8. Odin (marvel)
9. Chthon
10. Galactus

Bonus: if he's having a difficult time, Cythonna could also come in and pitch her help.


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Well Cythonna did "good" vs Superman and Rao beat her after a prolonged fight. Superman beat her by BFRing her into the Sun and she couldn't escape so she wasn't too impressive (and neither was/is Rao if it took a prolonged fight to put her down).

Stops at Thanos.


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Problem with Rao is that he has next to no feats outside of being the head deity of the Kryptonian theology and as such is attributed to various "feats" off panel such as creating life and the universe as we know it, which is par for the course for many deities in comics (almost every Pantheon has their own creationism myth/story, for example).

So, basically, if you believe word for word all the hype surrounding Rao and that he is a supreme being, you could argue him clearing simply based off of his apparent status alone.

Anyway, glad I could squeeze in a reasonable post before this thread likely gets devolved by the usual parties. Have fun!


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Dunno apparently Superman being a mere demi-god many times removed descendent of his is enough to produce golden superman prime in DC 1 Mil. so not sure what that says about Rao other than he's a pretty fine craftsman.

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Rao has no real feats of his own, but if we take his mythological retellings at face value, then...

Initially, Rao was merely the Kryptonian Sun God--an elemental (not unlike Apollo was to the Greeks):
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And considering the relative feebishness of Cythonna(Superman did quite well against her), it'd be a huge stretch to call that 'version' of Rao a Skyfather, imo.


It wasn't until very recent times that Rao's story evolved into a far more abstract one:
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So this depends entirely on which version of Rao we are using. One is around Superman's level(give or take), and the other is on par with THE God.


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Rao is in truth the Avatar of God and PC Supes was his descendant. Superman was called more then once "Son" by "God" during the PC days.

The Supreme being stomps. Everyone who says something else is a fandboy.


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Rao is in truth the Avatar of God and PC Supes was his descendant. Superman was called more then once "Son" by "God" during the PC days.

The Supreme being stomps. Everyone who says otherwise is a fandboy.

Otherwise .


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Rao is in truth the Avatar of God and PC Supes was his descendant. Superman was called more then once "Son" by "God" during the PC days.

The Supreme being stomps. Everyone who says otherwise is a fandboy.
yeah I think it happened in the sword of superman. Cytonna was slapping Clark around like nothing and had him almost frozen. I think the sun is like her kryptonite and this is why superman did so well against her.

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Otherwise .


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Who said superman did good against cythonna without a sun amp?

Gets backhanded

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...rLastGod_13.jpg

Superman "a strength beyond I've ever encountered"

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He compares her strength to that of Pocket universe kryptonians who were designed to be as strong as Pre-crisis kryptonians by Time-trapper

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums...rLastGod_20.jpg

Round two, got the crap beat out of him

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This was while she was severaly weakened by the loss of her followers.


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Dude, none of her attacks so much as scratched Supes, nor did they come remotely close to incapacitating him.

SEVERAL of Clark's rogues have done a LOT better. Cyth was mediocre at best.


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Dude, none of her attacks so much as scratched Supes, nor did they come remotely close to incapacitating him.

SEVERAL of Clark's rogues have done a LOT better. Cyth was mediocre at best.


Clearly he artist can't draw blood and scratches.

Though seriously, I think it's because of the Artwork, she had the upper hand.


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Her punches were little more than a minor inconvenience for Supes-- he wasn't even scratched by her melee(s), and was never down for any length of time. Like I said above, most of his rogues have done a LOT better.

That said, Cyth, while minorly impressive, certainly wasn't that great, all things considered. Tbh, I'd put her on the lower end of the power tier where Superman's rogues are concerned. She just didn't do much to him.


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Tbh, I'd put her on the lower end of the power tier where Superman's rogues are concerned. She just didn't do much to him.
erm

I think you're putting a little too much importance on the artist and not quite enough on the writer


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Well Cythonna did "good" vs Superman and Rao beat her after a prolonged fight. Superman beat her by BFRing her into the Sun and she couldn't escape so she wasn't too impressive (and neither was/is Rao if it took a prolonged fight to put her down).

Stops at Thanos.


Could you name the book that this happened in?


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erm

I think you're putting a little too much importance on the artist and not quite enough on the writer
Okay, even if we ignore the lack of visible injuries, the fact still remains that Cyth was using every power at her disposal (ie. telepathy, physicality, and exotic ice powers) simultaneously against Supes, and still couldn't down him for any length of time. Most of Superman's rogues have caused him a lot more damage than that, so why should she impress me more than any of them? Is it because Superman stated that she struck him as hard as he'd ever been hit? He's said that about several characters over the years... Icon, for instance:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13076500/s1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13076502/s2.jpg.html

Sorry for my lack of awe. /shrug

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Could you name the book that this happened in?
She appeared in a single issue: Superman - The Last God of Krypton


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Okay, even if we ignore the lack of visible injuries, the fact still remains that Cyth was using EVERY power at her disposal (ie. telepathy, physicality, and exotic ice powers) simultaneously against Supes, and still couldn't down him for any length of time. Most of Superman's rogues have caused him a lot more damage than that, so why should she impress me more than any of them? Is it because Superman stated that she struck him as hard as he'd ever been hit? He's said that about several characters over the years... Icon, for instance:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13076500/s1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13076502/s2.jpg.html

Sorry for my lack of awe. /shrug

She appeared in a single issue: Superman - The Last God of Krypton




Thanks been looking for it for a while.


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Dude, none of her attacks so much as scratched Supes, nor did they come remotely close to incapacitating him.

SEVERAL of Clark's rogues have done a LOT better. Cyth was mediocre at best.

That's one of the most horrendus leap of logic I've ever seen. Which of those guys can backhand superman away like a bug? Which of them have been compared to PC kryptonians? This is the real PC superboy vs superman, notice the lack of blood and scratches and tell me he's weaker than konvikt



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Well Cythonna did "good" vs Superman and Rao beat her after a prolonged fight. Superman beat her by BFRing her into the Sun and she couldn't escape so she wasn't too impressive (and neither was/is Rao if it took a prolonged fight to put her down).

Stops at Thanos.
So it took Rao longer to defeat Cythonna than it took Superman?

Rao doesn't make it past 1 then.


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