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Superman & Batman vs Ironman & Thor

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Thor and Iron Man.


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Superman and Thor.

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Based on what?


Iron Man has prep. evil face

He is the anti Batman. Like how he takes on the Hulk on the spot in older armor and beats him, than get pwned in his cutting edge Hulkbuster.

Also, IMO Batman, while not having Black Panthers level of technology, can do at least as well as he did when counter prepping against Stark tech.. The stuff Panther did is not beyond Bruce's expertise, such as information gathering and exploiting basic weaknesses in his armor designs..

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Based on what?


Batman being smarter and better at prep then Tony and Supes being more intelligent, faster ans stronger then Thor.

Tony has his Arsena, which is nice and dandyl. Superman has everything the Fortress of Solitude can offer. Batman can get an even better Insider suit with Supes help. Given Supes speed and intellect, they can build Brother eye within a month, and send an Army of Supermanbots and OMACs against Thor and IronMan. While they chill out and drink some tea, Thor and IM gets destroyed.


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Batman being smarter and better at prep then Tony and Supes being more intelligent, faster ans stronger then Thor.

Tony has his Arsena, which is nice and dandyl. Superman has everything the Fortress of Solitude can offer. Batman can get an even better Insider suit with Supes help. Given Supes speed and intellect, they can build Brother eye within a month, and send an Army of Supermanbots and OMACs against Thor and IronMan. While they chill out and drink some tea, Thor and IM gets destroyed.


Batman's smarter than Tony? That's rich. He's a better detective and crime fighter, but in anything resembling technology and engineering (or science in general), Bruce is getting humbled big time.

Pretty sure you missed the "DCnU" part in the OP, which renders most of your argument invalid.

And Thor's prep time enables him to get shit like the Destroyer Armor.


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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Batman being smarter and better at prep then Tony and Supes being more intelligent, faster ans stronger then Thor.

Tony has his Arsena, which is nice and dandyl. Superman has everything the Fortress of Solitude can offer. Batman can get an even better Insider suit with Supes help. Given Supes speed and intellect, they can build Brother eye within a month, and send an Army of Supermanbots and OMACs against Thor and IronMan. While they chill out and drink some tea, Thor and IM gets destroyed.


Good points.

TBH though, I normally give Supes a slight edge over Thor anyways, and in straight combat see Stark as a non factor.. Even if he decked out his suit full of Green K, that never worked out too well for Lex Luthor, and Supes has a MAJOR speed edge in this thing.

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Batman being smarter and better at prep then Tony and Supes being more intelligent, faster ans stronger then Thor.

Tony has his Arsena, which is nice and dandyl. Superman has everything the Fortress of Solitude can offer. Batman can get an even better Insider suit with Supes help. Given Supes speed and intellect, they can build Brother eye within a month, and send an Army of Supermanbots and OMACs against Thor and IronMan. While they chill out and drink some tea, Thor and IM gets destroyed.



So you think the insider suit is better than Tony's suits?

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Iron Man has prep. evil face

He is the anti Batman. Like how he takes on the Hulk on the spot in older armor and beats him, than get pwned in his cutting edge Hulkbuster.

Also, IMO Batman, while not having Black Panthers level of technology, can do at least as well as he did when counter prepping against Stark tech.. The stuff Panther did is not beyond Bruce's expertise, such as information gathering and exploiting basic weaknesses in his armor designs..


That's assuming Batman gets one sided prep on Tony and Tony doesn't prep accordingly for Batman.


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Batman creates brother eye 2.0 and solos


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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That's assuming Batman gets one sided prep on Tony and Tony doesn't prep accordingly for Batman.


No, it's assuming the same scenario that happened between Iron Man and Panther.

Panther didn't use exotic tech, he used very basic tactics gained from industrial espionage. And Bruce is no stranger to that.

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Batman's smarter than Tony? That's rich. He's a better detective and crime fighter, but in anything resembling technology and engineering (or science in general), Bruce is getting humbled big time.

Pretty sure you missed the "DCnU" part in the OP, which renders most of your argument invalid.

And Thor's prep time enables him to get shit like the Destroyer Armor.


He is the better tactitian and in a chess game or a prep war i would choose Bruce >>>>> Tony each day a week. Kryptonian tech on the other hand is >>> Tonys tech imho. Which Batman has access to.

DCnU my bad, still during the 5 years I guess they worked together alla Batman/Superman or Worlds Finest, they were a duo pre-dcnu that could work together better then anyone else.

So DCnU I don't know if they have this Bats/Supes history at all.

He has no power over the Destroyer Armor it belongs to his daddy, he would need to ask Odins permission which means he uses resources outside of his own and Tonys arsenal.

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So you think the insider suit is better than Tony's suits?


No, but Superman can use his resources and his intellect to improve it with his Kryptonian tech, which imho would give him a suit on Supes level.


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So what feats are you basing DCnU Superman and Batman winning off of then?

That's without factoring the factor that Thor adds in this. Given Tony's connection to New Asgardia and their general comradrie, they also have access to potent mystical artifacts that Superman and Batman have no answer to at all.


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He is the better tactitian and in a chess game or a prep war i would choose Bruce >>>>> Tony each day a week. Kryptonian tech on the other hand is >>> Tonys tech imho. Which Batman has access to.

DCnU my bad, still during the 5 years I guess they worked together alla Batman/Superman or Worlds Finest, they were a duo pre-dcnu that could work together better then anyone else.

So DCnU I don't know if they have this Bats/Supes history at all.

He has no power over the Destroyer Armor it belongs to his daddy, he would need to ask Odins permission which means he uses resources outside of his own and Tonys arsenal.


So, really, nothing from DCnU to suggest them winning?

Thor is the Prince of Asgard and as such entitled to its various artifacts and weapons. Odin's not even in Asgardia right now, so that's a moot point. Thor doesn't need Odin's permission to use the relics of the kingdom which he's the heir of. There's also Norn Stones, the Odinsword, miscellaneous enchanted weapons and armors for them to peruse, etc. etc. etc.

As far as I know, neither DCnU Batman or Superman have anything in either of their resources to counter potent Asgardian artifacts/relics.


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Has Thor ever used the Destroyer armor before?

Seems like he's always fighting it, not using it for anything. And using the armor doesn't seem his style anyways.. I'd think CIS would cover against him using it.

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He is the better tactitian and in a chess game or a prep war i would choose Bruce >>>>> Tony each day a week. Kryptonian tech on the other hand is >>> Tonys tech imho. Which Batman has access to.

DCnU my bad, still during the 5 years I guess they worked together alla Batman/Superman or Worlds Finest, they were a duo pre-dcnu that could work together better then anyone else.

So DCnU I don't know if they have this Bats/Supes history at all.

He has no power over the Destroyer Armor it belongs to his daddy, he would need to ask Odins permission which means he uses resources outside of his own and Tonys arsenal.



No, but Superman can use his resources and his intellect to improve it with his Kryptonian tech, which imho would give him a suit on Supes level.



Well if we are going to use upgrades on a already established suit what's stopping Ironman from doing the same thing with Thor? If Bleeding Edge is already better than the insider, if Tony makes upgrades to it wouldn't all of Bruce's work be for nothing?

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So what feats are you basing DCnU Superman and Batman winning off of then?

That's without factoring the factor that Thor adds in this. Given Tony's connection to New Asgardia and their general comradrie, they also have access to potent mystical artifacts that Superman and Batman have no answer to at all.


That they are still better at teamworking and have access to better tech then Tony and Thor.

You are quite vague and it's still debatable if it's possible for them to get enough of this New Asgardian artifacts within a month. Superman on the other hand showed that he can learn and do things within seconds.

Tony and Thor aren't friends iirc, the last time Tony created a Thor clone and Thor kicked his ass after coming back from the dead... a great start for a team up isn't it?


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