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Rune King Thor Vs Infinity Man

IM is powered by the Source. Who wins?

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The most powerful beings IM killed were: Black Racer, Takion and Orion. He also battled Scott Free(possessed by the ALE) to a stalemate, and their battle ultimately destroyed the Source Wall in it's entirety.

Leaning towards him.


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Could someone post the battle that Superman had against the Infinity Man while he was the Agent of the Source. And then once reading it, could someone please come up with a reason that he should be able to defeat Rune King Thor, while putting aside him being the Agent of the Source, and him defeating the characters that he did off panel as the only reasons for him being able to operate on RK Thor's level.

I can understand people saying that he did not want to battle Superman, but when Superman turns around and punches him, and he doesn't simply no sell the hit but instead makes arghh sound bubbles, then most people should automatically have bells and whistles go off in their minds. If the Infinity Man was that powerful, none of Kal's punches should have registered, nor should their scuffle have resembled a competitive match up.

I'd bet real cash that RK Thor could pull Superman's arms off with a smile. I'm just saying that something just didn't add up. Am I alone here?


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Tbf, RKT didn't have a whole lot of feats under his belt, either, but the feats he did have were really really good.

Personally, I'm undecided.


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Well if the source is backing up IM i don't see why he shouldn't win. Seems quite a notch higher than even the gods that were using the asguardians or even odin force.

Without backing though, well really no idea cause RKT having limited feats is a fact too.


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Originally posted by Galan007
The most powerful beings IM killed were: Black Racer, Takion and Orion. He also battled Scott Free(possessed by the ALE) to a stalemate, and their battle ultimately destroyed the Source Wall in it's entirety.

Leaning towards him.
Scott jobbed.


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d bet real cash that RK Thor could pull Superman's holdsarms off with a smile. I'm just saying that something just didn't add up. Am I alone here?
the phuck? Once RKT holds superman's wrists, superman does a lateral shoulder raise and rips rkt's arms clean from his sockets. Superman is that strong. Superman has fought people stronger and more powerful than RTK. In his long history, show me one instance where someone ripped his arms off or came close. And as per this thread, IM wins.

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I really don't see RKT ripping off Superman's arms. Sure as hell don't see Superman ripping off Thor's arms, let alone RKT's.


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That works.. smile

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Thor was in possession of the Rune magic and Odin force? Combined, who thinks equals the Source in power?

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Thor was in possession of the Rune magic and Odin force? Combined, who thinks equals the Source in power?
When did IM have the full power of the Source?


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Yeah, I don't think it was clear if he had the whole power or not, but he was an agent of the Source. Could have had 25%, 50%, I don't remember.

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Yeah, I don't think it was clear if he had the whole power or not, but he was an agent of the Source. Could have had 25%, 50%, I don't remember.


Could have been 1%


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The battle between Rune King Thor and the Infinity Man pits two incredibly powerful and transcendent characters from Marvel and DC, respectively. Both possess immense abilities tied to higher levels of existence, but they achieve their power through different means and serve different narrative roles. Here’s an analysis of how this matchup would unfold:

Rune King Thor (Marvel Comics)

State of Power:
• Rune King Thor represents a version of Thor who has transcended mortality and godhood, wielding infinite power through the Odinforce and Rune Magic. He is a metaphysical being with unparalleled control over reality, time, and fate.

Abilities:
1. Reality Manipulation:
• Can rewrite reality, alter the fabric of existence, and destroy metaphysical constructs like the Norns (controllers of fate).
2. Omniscience:
• Knows the past, present, and future, ensuring he is never caught off guard.
3. Immortality:
• Exists outside the cycle of life and death, making him impervious to conventional destruction.
4. Fate Control:
• Broke the Norns’ control over destiny, effectively making him immune to predetermination.

Weaknesses:
• While immensely powerful, his feats primarily focus on the Marvel multiverse and its cosmology.

Infinity Man (DC Comics)

State of Power:
• The Infinity Man is a New God, often depicted as the protector and enforcer of the Forever People. He is one of the most powerful beings in the Fourth World, capable of challenging gods like Darkseid and Highfather.

Abilities:
1. Energy Manipulation:
• Wields vast cosmic energy, capable of immense destruction and creation.
2. Super Strength and Durability:
• Comparable to beings like Darkseid, making him nearly invulnerable to physical and energy-based attacks.
3. Dimensional Travel:
• Can move between dimensions and across time and space with ease.
4. Reality Warping:
• Possesses the ability to manipulate reality on a significant scale, though not as consistently demonstrated as Rune King Thor.
5. Synergy with the Forever People:
• His power grows when combined with the collective will of the Forever People, a group of New Gods with unique abilities.

Weaknesses:
• While incredibly powerful, his abilities are often tied to the synergy with the Forever People or the Fourth World, which may limit his independent scope.

Battle Analysis

1. Nature of Their Powers
• Rune King Thor: Operates on a metaphysical level, rewriting reality and fate itself. His powers transcend physical and magical limitations, making him a threat to beings tied to conventional cosmological rules.
• Infinity Man: A New God with immense cosmic power, but his feats focus more on physical dominance and energy manipulation within the Fourth World framework.

Edge: Rune King Thor, due to his ability to operate on a metaphysical plane.

2. Reality Manipulation
• Rune King Thor: His reality-warping powers allow him to dismantle fate and undo constructs that bind existence itself.
• Infinity Man: Has displayed some reality-warping capabilities, but they are far less defined or consistent compared to Rune King Thor’s feats.

Edge: Rune King Thor, significantly.

3. Durability and Immortality
• Rune King Thor: Exists outside life and death, making him effectively immune to destruction.
• Infinity Man: While incredibly durable and resistant to most forms of attack, his existence is tied to the Fourth World and the synergy of the Forever People.

Edge: Rune King Thor, due to his metaphysical resilience.

4. Knowledge and Strategic Insight
• Rune King Thor: Omniscient, knowing every possible outcome and counter-strategy before the battle begins.
• Infinity Man: While highly intelligent and skilled, he lacks omniscience, giving Rune King Thor a strategic edge.

Edge: Rune King Thor, decisively.

Outcome

Rune King Thor Wins If:
1. He uses his reality-warping powers to sever Infinity Man’s connection to the Fourth World and the Forever People.
2. He exploits his omniscience to predict and counter Infinity Man’s attacks before they happen.
3. He dismantles Infinity Man’s existence on a metaphysical level, bypassing his immense durability.

Infinity Man Wins If:
1. The battle is confined to raw physical and energy-based combat, where his sheer power and durability give him an advantage.
2. He is empowered by the collective will of the Forever People and fights Rune King Thor in the Fourth World, where his powers are strongest.

Verdict

Rune King Thor is far more likely to win this matchup due to his reality-warping abilities, omniscience, and metaphysical transcendence. While Infinity Man is an immensely powerful New God with vast energy and physical capabilities, his power is tied to the Fourth World and the Forever People, making him vulnerable to Thor’s ability to manipulate and dismantle constructs on a higher plane.

Probability of Success:
• Rune King Thor: 85%
• Infinity Man: 15%, primarily if the fight remains physical or energy-based, or if the battle takes place in the Fourth World under favorable conditions.


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Could someone post the battle that Superman had against the Infinity Man while he was the Agent of the Source. And then once reading it, could someone please come up with a reason that he should be able to defeat Rune King Thor, while putting aside him being the Agent of the Source, and him defeating the characters that he did off panel as the only reasons for him being able to operate on RK Thor's level.

I can understand people saying that he did not want to battle Superman, but when Superman turns around and punches him, and he doesn't simply no sell the hit but instead makes arghh sound bubbles, then most people should automatically have bells and whistles go off in their minds. If the Infinity Man was that powerful, none of Kal's punches should have registered, nor should their scuffle have resembled a competitive match up.

I'd bet real cash that RK Thor could pull Superman's arms off with a smile. I'm just saying that something just didn't add up. Am I alone here?
I mean, Superman while weakened by Antilife still one punched Barbatos. Superman went toe to toe with Apex Lex and was winning, who was amped several times, including one of which game him the power of the 7 Dark Forces of Creation. Superman is far beyond RKT.


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I mean, Superman while weakened by Antilife still one punched Barbatos. Superman went toe to toe with Apex Lex and was winning, who was amped several times, including one of which game him the power of the 7 Dark Forces of Creation. Superman is far beyond RKT.


Not how this works. None of IM’s attack would work on an ascendant being. The his isn’t hard to understand. RK Thor is a metaphysical character that lives outside of the physical plane. You can have the power to wreck the multiverse but because that attack is physical it wouldn’t touch RK Thor. Different tiers and power levels. Yes RK Thor would absolutely mug Galactus and none of his abilities work against him.


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The Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow are significantly above the Asgardians in terms of cosmic hierarchy and power. These entities exist outside of the conventional physical and metaphysical realms, placing them beyond even the gods of Asgard. Here’s a breakdown of how they compare:
1. Existence Beyond Time and Space:
The Asgardians are powerful beings tied to the Nine Realms and operate within the framework of time and space. The Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow, however, exist outside of these boundaries, functioning on a multiversal or higher-dimensional level.
2. Manipulative Influence:
The Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow sustain themselves by feeding on the energies generated by the endless cycle of Ragnarok, a recurring event in Asgardian mythology. This suggests they are capable of manipulating events on a divine scale, using Asgardians as pawns in their schemes.
3. Eternal Nature:
While Asgardians like Thor and Odin are incredibly long-lived and powerful, they are not truly eternal—they can die (though often return). The Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow, by contrast, are described as eternal beings that exist outside the cycle of death and rebirth.
4. Power Level:
Asgardians are among the most powerful gods in the Marvel Universe, but their power is dwarfed by beings like the Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow. These entities are more akin to abstract beings like Eternity or the Living Tribunal in their scope of influence and authority.
5. Dependency Relationship:
Despite their immense power, the Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow are paradoxically dependent on the Asgardians to maintain their existence. They need the cycle of Ragnarok to repeat endlessly to sustain themselves, which shows a level of interconnection but also highlights their supremacy in ensuring this cycle continues.

In short, the Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow are on a vastly higher existential plane, acting as puppet masters to the Asgardians, who, while immensely powerful, are still bound by a cosmic framework that these entities transcend.


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