Wolverine/w Full use of speed force vs H/P Doomsday, Tutinax, & Kurse
Wolverine has the skill and ability to use the speed force at full power can he beat these guys also using his adamantium healing factor and viciousness? He only has to stop H/P twice the others once and no bfr.
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are u going by what a forum user would do if he had access the the SF w/ wolverines powers... or are u going by how logan would ACTUALLY fight if given the power.
one is a wet dream the other stark reality. even with the sf logan wouldnt be imping with adamantium strikes. he'd be fast but not too fast for H/P to responfd too. and i find it highly unlikely he would be creating constructs and stealing speed. jus not his style besides we fight in character here
He can now think and strategise within picoseconds. He knows what his SF powers can do. You'd have to be someone on the level of Rhino to not be able to take full advantage of that......and even then, a second to us would be years to him. Scans, please, of Wolverine, in character, being handicapped by CIS? People less well-versed in the Speed Force (Wally, Impulse) have been able to do the things I described - how do you think a militarily trained killer like Wolverine, who's ALREADY FULLY versed in the SF and all that it can do, will perform?
Look for example how well he used his teleportation abilities in Enemy of the State. Your arguments is akin to Wolverine going dur, I can do all this, but I will stabby stabby.
1st time: IMP.
2nd time: steal his kinetic energy by simply looking at him.
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Last edited by DarkSaint85 on Feb 5th, 2014 at 09:33 PM
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Your using a no limit fallacy. This isn't how things work. Its like saying give Spiderman the thors ability and he'd god blast from the get go. It would be out of character. Even for wolverine. Especially given how many times the imp has actually been used in comics
I merely used the showings and abilities exhibited by the various Flash's, some of whom had less skill and ability with the Speed Force than what was given by the OP.
From the character ruling:
Wally has made Speed Force constructs.
He has IMP'd
He has healed at light speed.
He has become intangible and ported things inside something else.
Stolen speed just by looking at someone.
Bart has created speed force avatars
Also stolen speed just by looking at someone (an older Bart, however).
Wally has also, with Bart and Jay, stopped and strategised within picoseconds, looking at all the angles and formulating a strategy for winning. He has also out thought a Sun sized sentient supercomputer.
In character, Wolverine has shown that he has his cunning PLUS battle strategies and tactics. It was what Weapon X was created for, after all - to kill superheroes.
So you ally a tactical, battle hardened killer, with a supercomputer brain, and a full working knowledge of how to fully utilise his powers....and you say that in character, he will abandon all these powers, in favour of stabbing faster?
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Your reaching, cherry picking feats and creating a character that is neither wolverine or barry. Pls your arguing the exact opposite to what u just posted.
and yes, he would stab really fast...wolverine more often than not charges head first into a battle slashing and stabbing. and u wanna know why? because he knows his adamantium skeleton and plot based hf can handle it. Even though he's one of the best MAs in marvel. stop debating powersets
Well, no, I was using Wally and Bart, not Barry :-p
But you do raise a very good point. Unassailable, in fact.
You're telling me, Wolverine, KNOWING what he is capable of, and knowing what his abilities are, fights a certain way? Thus making the best use of his natural mutations and Weapon X derived skills/adamantium?
So in character, Wolverine makes the best use of his abilities? That's what you're saying?
Believe it or not, my amalgamated Wolverash is truer to the spirit of what Logan does than yours.
Your version of Logan, when given a teleportation pack, would use it to sharpen his claws or something.
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Last edited by DarkSaint85 on Feb 5th, 2014 at 11:18 PM
In Enemy of the State, when he was given new abilities...he used them, sometimes mid battle. Forcefields, infra red lenses, teleportation devices, radio telepathy (or however he was communicating).....he's not just going to hack and stab when he knows he has other options.
His teleportation pack didn't work the way Sin is saying. It's not like it gave him nightcrawler abilities where he can consistently teleport during battle.
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