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Proxima Midnight vs. Caiera The Old Strong

Who wins?


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Good thread.


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Could Caiera withstand the spear? If she could...she wins a healthy majority. If not, she is losing.


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Good thread.


Would really love to see this on panel. Calera was one of my favorite characters, had so much potential.


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Proxima stomps , after she easily owned the Hulk


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Proxima stomps , after she easily owned the Hulk

Yup. Caiera was cool and all but what IT said can't be ignored. Going with Proxima too.


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Proxima stomps , after she easily owned the Hulk


I agree with you unless Caiera manages to get in close. This is where she excels. If Caiera manages this, Proxima would be hit with more punching power than she can handle over a prolonged period (seismic forces, coupled with her already huge strength). I think that it would be a great battle but Caiera was trained from a child to be an elite warrior.

All in all two very excellent characters that I would place right up there with Wonder Woman.


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I agree with you unless Caiera manages to get in close. This is where she excels. If Caiera manages this, Proxima would be hit with more punching power than she can handle over a prolonged period (seismic forces, coupled with her already huge strength). I think that it would be a great battle but Caiera was trained from a child to be an elite warrior.

All in all two very excellent characters that I would place right up there with Wonder Woman.


Caiera is above her in every possible way you can think of. The old power could probably prevent that attack she used on Hulk from going through. Also...based off Proxima statement, Hulk appeared to be too too fast for her which is the reason she used the spear (to slow him down) and Caiera didn't have that problem (even though Hulk speed fts are more concrete now..but still). If Proxima approach this fight any other way than what she did against Hulk, Proxima loses, badly. Proxima is bad××× though. She took out more Heralds than anyone Thanos was on that team, and that's including Thanos. Her weapon is a plot.


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Could Caiera withstand the spear? If she could...she wins a healthy majority. If not, she is losing.
Caiera can survive her entire body being vaporized stick out tongue


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I agree with you unless Caiera manages to get in close. This is where she excels. If Caiera manages this, Proxima would be hit with more punching power than she can handle over a prolonged period (seismic forces, coupled with her already huge strength). I think that it would be a great battle but Caiera was trained from a child to be an elite warrior.

All in all two very excellent characters that I would place right up there with Wonder Woman.
and what proof do you have proxima can't handle the punching power


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Caiera is above her in every possible way you can think of. The old power could probably prevent that attack she used on Hulk from going through. Also...based off Proxima statement, Hulk appeared to be too too fast for her which is the reason she used the spear (to slow him down) and Caiera didn't have that problem (even though Hulk speed fts are more concrete now..but still). If Proxima approach this fight any other way than what she did against Hulk, Proxima loses, badly. Proxima is bad××× though. She took out more Heralds than anyone Thanos was on that team, and that's including Thanos. Her weapon is a plot.
get over it son she owned Hulk and she is less powerful than Thanos


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and what proof do you have proxima can't handle the punching power


Well Caiera can hit pretty hard as seen when she hit the Hulk. Skaar was also able to utilize that kind of power, and her control over rock and other such materials could place Proxima in huge trouble. I'm not giving either a clear win, because I think that either could take it, but if Proxima gets in close, she would be hit by a huge seismic event. Skaar doesn't use the Old power anywhere as well as his mother, and he was able to harness over a billion tons of force in one hit. This in my opinion is better than what Proxima was doing when she fought Cage brother. You know what I mean?


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Well Caiera can hit pretty hard as seen when she hit the Hulk. Skaar was also able to utilize that kind of power, and her control over rock and other such materials could place Proxima in huge trouble. I'm not giving either a clear win, because I think that either could take it, but if Proxima gets in close, she would be hit by a huge seismic event. Skaar doesn't use the Old power anywhere as well as his mother, and he was able to harness over a billion tons of force in one hit. This in my opinion is better than what Proxima was doing when she fought Cage brother. You know what I mean?
so no proof just speculation , k


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so no proof just speculation , k


Well it's actually all just speculation. Neither of them have too many feats. That weapon of Proxima's could be a big problem, but I wouldn't give her the auto win because of it. Proxima didn't show me that she could actually beat someone of this caliber either. Guess that makes both of our opinions on this nothing but speculation.


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How many appearances/fights did Proxima have?

IIRC:

Attacking Wakanda
Fighting Cage
Fighting the Avengers with the other generals.

Is that it?


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She one-shot Spectrum too while Spectrum was in her light form.


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She one-shot Spectrum too while Spectrum was in her light form.


Her weapon did that. She didn't physically do that. It's a good feat, but... erm


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How many appearances/fights did Proxima have?

IIRC:

Attacking Wakanda
Fighting Cage
Fighting the Avengers with the other generals.

Is that it?


Yes, and yes.


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Her weapon did that. She didn't physically do that. It's a good feat, but... erm


Not sure why you're so confused. This isn't a fist fight, Proxima is allowed to user her spear since it's standard equipment, so the feat counts.


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Not sure why you're so confused. This isn't a fist fight, Proxima is allowed to user her spear since it's standard equipment, so the feat counts.


Who said that I was confused? Caiera is more powerful than Proxima. Having the ability to sate Galactus' hunger for an age. Even to the point that it put him into a deep sleep that would have continued if he wasn't awakened. Caiera could control the entire planet, and it isn't a certainty that she would not be able to use the environment to block any long range attacks. Caiera isn't the one trick pony that you may be alluding to. So to answer your statement, Caiera could turn this into an up close and personal battle. Proxima is also one it seems that enjoys this type of battle.


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Who said that I was confused? Caiera is more powerful than Proxima. Having the ability to sate Galactus' hunger for an age. Even to the point that it put him into a deep sleep that would have continued if he wasn't awakened. Caiera could control the entire planet, and it isn't a certainty that she would not be able to use the environment to block any long range attacks. Caiera isn't the one trick pony that you may be alluding to. So to answer your statement, Caiera could turn this into an up close and personal battle. Proxima is also one it seems that enjoys this type of battle.


Your post made it seem like you were discounting Proxima's feat of one-shotting Spectrum just because it was done by her spear. By that logic we can discount half of Thor's feats because they were done with Mjolnir, right?

Also when did Caiera have access to her entire planet's Old Power when she was alive? Give a reference.


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