Not to mention that while Etrigan wields the hell fire of a demon Hellstrom wields the power of all hell itself http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...+his+powers.jpg
His power is the very power of the Lord of hell (any hell, the reason he defeats mephisto, Osiris etc)
Whe he allows his full demon slef to take over the tears with his mystic talons (to which Superman will not be invulnerable having no protection from magic) the hides of demon hordes abart http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...9+-+page+18.jpg
No bait, just wanted to make sure you showed up. Not that i expect much of a fight. No one shotting will be had because in character Superman won't go all out until it's too bloody late. Daimon can tank the blows of the type of attacks Superman would normally employ at the start of a fight, manipulate time so that Superman's speed is meaningless, erect force fields that Superman can't penetrate and then start using magic on a higher order than Superman has ever encountered ( and I haven't even shown the magic yet).
You're kidding, right? I'm no expert in marvel's mystic side but just a quick google search can tell me that you're full of it. The only scene worth in that post was the trapping of Dormammu from New Avengers 54 which was done by Strange, Voodoo and Hellstrom TOGETHER while Voodoo exorcised him from Earth. While in the Blackheart scene, the context is plainly stated in the scan. It wasn't Hellstrom's own power which did it.
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If I want to omit context, a spell from Etrigan bound ****ing Spectre himself and he took on Sentinels of Magic on his own. But that took the wings of an angel and Morgaine had amped him against Sentinels.
I would really like the scans where Hellstrom channels this much power.
Cosmic Odyssey
Darkseid joins with Dr.Fate, Orion, Highfather, Etrigan they form the Cinque of Cosmic Power and they battle the Anti-Life Entity, which is actually the evil part of the Source. In the end they defeat it, but cutting it off form it’s own dimension by destroying the universe. So 1/5 of the power to destroy a universe was from Darkseid. Huge feat.
And, as to the topic, Superman cant handle magic. He's a total wuss in it's presence. He's been bitten by vampires. A trident to the chest and this fight is over.
Zatanna could literally tell Superman to drop dead and he would.
Magic.
Its really a major weakness easily exploited. Reminds me of Wolverine quipping that Cypher's weakness was bullets.
Hellstrom's trident will work like it would on any normal person. Hack. Slash. Stab. He has the win rather easily.
HA HA, THIS is what you call a comeback, pathetic. Even from you I expected more.
I also love the Hypocrisy of your last post. Since our talking about context please explain how the scans form the first battle between Agent Venom and Hellstrom (in which neither actually won) hlp Superman in the least. In that battle as i recall Daimon clearly told Flash that he would have been destroyed in an instant if he hadn't been branded by the power of Mephisto. Please show me anywhere where Superman has such protection ????? HMMMMM
In Avengers 54 Daimon put the shield around Dormammu (from which he could not escape) and the three worked together to exorcise him. Unless you can show me any feat of either Strange or Voodoo creating a shield out of hellfire (which is what it was formed from) then we're done on that one.
Hahah you talk about the Black heart scan as if it was an amp. It stated on panel it was the same power that EVERY native born sorcerer draws upon. The smallest known least powerful mystic from Marvel Earth draws the same power. This isn't an amp this is Hellstroms normal capability. This is the power he used to perform exorcisms back in the Silver Age prior to his demon heritage coming out. Back when he only had physical power that half a demon soul gave him (Strength of 100 men). back when he could only tap his hell/soulfire at night. He could still work basic magic of low order. Since the several upgrades that allow him his full demon soul however he adds the magic of hell to that (hence why he can outshine his brother in power)
One on one?? Your own evidence clearly shows with the help of Selene. As usual ignore whatever context you don't like or doesn't suit you and twist what you think you can to provide a point where none exists.
But I'm the one who's lied ??? You haven't even disputed the highest feats raised ( which don't include either Blackheart or Dormammu), in fact you tried to deflect away from them by stating those you thought you had a contextual twist favoring your argument were better feats ( when they're not). Ignore the feats of Hellstrom defeating Satan a hell lord who has soloed almost all the others in marvel.
As soon as you. An show Superman enduring high level magical attacks ( without outside protection like that of Phantom Stranger) you'll have an argument.
That was Disciple who had the powers of several Elder Gods. Superman walked through that blast which tore several top tiers (j'onn, kyle, barda, zauriel, wonder woman) apart.
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