KillerMovies - Movies That Matter!

REGISTER HERE TO JOIN IN! - It's easy and it's free!
Home » Comic Book Forums » Comic Book 'Versus' Forum » Beyonder, House of M Scarlet Witch, Franklin richards vs DC heroes

Beyonder, House of M Scarlet Witch, Franklin richards vs DC heroes
Started by: TedKordJRBOSS

Forum Jump:
Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread
TedKordJRBOSS
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Justice League international HQ

Beyonder, House of M Scarlet Witch, Franklin richards vs DC heroes

Rules:
1. Battle takes place in Metropolis.
2. Win via death or K.O.
3. Morals on for everyone.
4. Team 2 has 5 month prep.

Black adam
WWIII Black Adam
Superman
Kal-EL
(Silver Age) Kal-EL
Red Superman
Sinestro Parrallax
Mon-el
Lobo
Dr. Fate
Tim Hunter
Blue Superman
Ultraman
Super boy/Superman Prime
Post-Crisis Superman
Modern Superman
Chistopher Kent
Kingdom Come Superman
Sunshine Superman
All-Star Superman
Black Zero
Darskeid
Justice league war Darkseid
Post- crisis Darkseid
Spectre
Phantom Stranger
Green Lantern Hal
Parallax Hal
Green lantern John Stewart
Green lantern Kyle Rayner
White lantern Kyle Rayner
Mogo
Zeus
Guardians of oa
Wizard shazam
Captain Marvel Shazam
Mary marvel
swamp thing
Highfather Izaya
Captain atom
Post-crisis captain atom
Monarch captain atom
Wally West Flash
Bart Allen Flash
Barry Allen Flash
Jay Garrick Flash
Martian Manhunter
Fernus
Yellow lantern Mongul

Last edited by TedKordJRBOSS on Aug 9th, 2014 at 05:05 PM

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 05:03 PM
TedKordJRBOSS is currently offline Click here to Send TedKordJRBOSS a Private Message Find more posts by TedKordJRBOSS Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
One_Angry_Scot
----

Gender: Male
Location:

I take it this is Pre-Retcon?


__________________

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 05:04 PM
One_Angry_Scot is currently offline Click here to Send One_Angry_Scot a Private Message Find more posts by One_Angry_Scot Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
One_Angry_Scot
----

Gender: Male
Location:

If so even that team has no chance, he killed Death across the entire multiverse then brought her back. The only real people to possibly threaten or beat him in a fight are either HOTU Thanos or HOTU Akhenaten.


__________________

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 05:14 PM
One_Angry_Scot is currently offline Click here to Send One_Angry_Scot a Private Message Find more posts by One_Angry_Scot Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Dreamlands

Beyonder wins. Hell, put HoM SW and Franklin on the opposite team and he still wins.


__________________

..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 07:45 PM
zopzop is currently offline Click here to Send zopzop a Private Message Find more posts by zopzop Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
DTM
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: New Zealand

quote: (post)
Originally posted by zopzop
Beyonder wins. Hell, put HoM SW and Franklin on the opposite team and he still wins.


If this is pre retcon, I agree 100%.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 09:18 PM
DTM is currently offline Click here to Send DTM a Private Message Find more posts by DTM Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Dreamlands

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DTM
If this is pre retcon, I agree 100%.

Even post retcon. The majority of his feats and fights from SWI and SWII were NEVER retconned.


__________________

..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 09:21 PM
zopzop is currently offline Click here to Send zopzop a Private Message Find more posts by zopzop Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
TheGodKiller02
True Killer

Gender: Male
Location: Hunting with wolves

He was below Celestials. Franklin is above Celestials. Do the math.


__________________

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 09:24 PM
TheGodKiller02 is currently offline Click here to Send TheGodKiller02 a Private Message Find more posts by TheGodKiller02 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
DTM
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: New Zealand

Actually, All of SW 1 and 2 was retconned, as far as his power levels go anyway, and then he was retconned again (they must have really hated him to retcon/depower him Twice). stick out tongue

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 09:35 PM
DTM is currently offline Click here to Send DTM a Private Message Find more posts by DTM Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Dreamlands

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DTM
Actually, All of SW 1 and 2 was retconned, as far as his power levels go anyway, and then he was retconned again (they must have really hated him to retcon/depower him Twice). stick out tongue

Nope.

Check the handbooks they confirm almost all of his pre retcon showings are still valid.

1) He wiped out Death across the entire Multiverse and all the powers and principalities of the multiverse (this included the LT) couldn't' stop him or undo the damage he did. He had a change of heart and reversed the havoc he caused.
2) He withstood a BILLION DIMENSION slagging sucker shot to the face and just coughed afterward.
3) Mephisto harnessed some of his power in a machine specifically made to destroy him, after he killed/resurrected Death, and he enlisted Eternity to add his power to that machine to attempt to kill the Beyonder. Despite all that power, they STILL weren't sure if it would work.
4) Molecule Man absorbed all the free energy in the MULTIVERSE in order to reinforce a force field he created to keep the Beyonder out, the Beyonder laughed then shattered it with one hit.
5) Beyonder threw a tantrum, but didn't directly attack anything, yet he caused multiverse wide destruction.
6) Spiderman, who had his power for a billionth of a second, remade ALL CREATION with it.


__________________

..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 09:58 PM
zopzop is currently offline Click here to Send zopzop a Private Message Find more posts by zopzop Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
TheGodKiller02
True Killer

Gender: Male
Location: Hunting with wolves

Yeah, because the board gives so much preference to handbooks. roll eyes (sarcastic)


__________________

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 10:24 PM
TheGodKiller02 is currently offline Click here to Send TheGodKiller02 a Private Message Find more posts by TheGodKiller02 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
DTM
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: New Zealand

Really? When did they retcon the 2 retcons and make all that happened in SWs valid? Last I heard they took down the Beyonder from the SUPREME BEING to a partial Cosmic Cube, then took him down further to a mutant inhuman.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 11:22 PM
DTM is currently offline Click here to Send DTM a Private Message Find more posts by DTM Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
zopzop
Lord of the Great Abyss

Gender: Unspecified
Location: Dreamlands

quote: (post)
Originally posted by DTM
Really? When did they retcon the 2 retcons and make all that happened in SWs valid? Last I heard they took down the Beyonder from the SUPREME BEING to a partial Cosmic Cube, then took him down further to a mutant inhuman.

None of that retconned his feats and fights. In the examples I gave above, they were confirmed in multiple handbook entries : Beyonder's, Death's, Mephisto's, Eternity's, and Molecule Man's. All this is post Retcon.

On panel, the Trial of Death was confirmed in an issue of Quasar. Spiderman remaking all creation in a billionth of a second with the Beyonder's power happened on panel in Spiderman and the Secret Wars. All of this is post retcon.

Then you have the TRANS MULTIVERSAL showdown between post Retcon MM and Beyonder that was wrecking havoc across the OMNIVERSE.


__________________

..even the outer hells are indifferent matters for they bow only to potent and archaic Nodens.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 11:28 PM
zopzop is currently offline Click here to Send zopzop a Private Message Find more posts by zopzop Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Glorificus
Senior Member

Gender:
Location: United States

Beyonder isn't even needed here. Batshit HoM Wanda alone could just wish away the entire opposing team. The only person that has a chance of resisting is The Spectre.

Old Post Aug 9th, 2014 11:28 PM
Glorificus is currently offline Click here to Send Glorificus a Private Message Find more posts by Glorificus Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
dynamix
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Boston

i see Tim Hunter and Swamp Thing (depending on form) being the only challenge. But i don't think they ever reached their potential. So with available showing of the two and combine effort of the others on the team, it's spite....against DC. The marvel team are elite reality warper.

Old Post Aug 10th, 2014 12:41 AM
dynamix is currently offline Click here to Send dynamix a Private Message Find more posts by dynamix Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
TedKordJRBOSS
Senior Member

Gender: Male
Location: Justice League international HQ

quote: (post)
Originally posted by dynamix
i see Tim Hunter and Swamp Thing (depending on form) being the only challenge. But i don't think they ever reached their potential. So with available showing of the two and combine effort of the others on the team, it's spite....against DC. The marvel team are elite reality warper.

I was going to add Bat-mite & Volthoom but I don't know why I didn't do it

Old Post Aug 12th, 2014 09:02 AM
TedKordJRBOSS is currently offline Click here to Send TedKordJRBOSS a Private Message Find more posts by TedKordJRBOSS Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
Mr Master
Junior Member

Gender: Male
Location: somewhere within time & space

==========================

Hey there friends.

Beyonder's essence, his true self, was never stated/depicted to be below Celestials,
that was his far weaker incarnation called Kosmos. (basically a limited shell)

Also, Zop ain't lying.


__________________

Old Post Aug 12th, 2014 12:45 PM
Mr Master is currently offline Click here to Send Mr Master a Private Message Find more posts by Mr Master Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote Quick Quote
All times are UTC. The time now is 03:16 PM.
  Last Thread   Next Thread

Home » Comic Book Forums » Comic Book 'Versus' Forum » Beyonder, House of M Scarlet Witch, Franklin richards vs DC heroes

Email this Page
Subscribe to this Thread
   Post New Thread  Post A Reply

Forum Jump:
Search by user:
 

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON

Text-only version
 

< - KillerMovies.com - Forum Archive - Forum Rules >


© Copyright 2000-2006, KillerMovies.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by: vBulletin, copyright ©2000-2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.