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Dcnu Power Rankings: Cis Off

Rank the top 20 heroes CIS removed.


Rank the top 20 Villains CIS removed.


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Superboy should fit somewhere in there.

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By that I mean Kon-El and not Jon Kent because Jon Kent is a freaking pansy.

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DCNU Superboy has recently got a power boost. Before hand he was tanking punches from Supergirl like she was nothing. He is most definitely one of the top in DCNU along with Superman, J'onn, and Wonder Woman. In time, it has been stated that Superboy will have the power to kill every meta on the planet with ease.


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Originally posted by Iskandar
By that I mean Kon-El and not Jon Kent because Jon Kent is a freaking pansy.


They are pretty much the same character.


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Originally posted by carver9
They are pretty much the same character.


Yeah, but the difference is I hate Jon Kent I really do. That and Kon-El handed him his arse when they first met.

Didn't particularly like it when they replaced Kon-El with Jon Kent as of Superboy #26. It's nice to see Kon-El back in #33.

Speaking of that a fused Kon-El and Jon Kent could alter time-lines outright and create pocket universes in that same issue. Also, the present Jon Kent was able to separate the both of them.

Pretty hardcore psionic power all around.

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Originally posted by Iskandar
Yeah, but the difference is I hate Jon Kent I really do. That and Kon-El handed him his arse when they first met.

Didn't particularly like it when they replaced Kon-El with Jon Kent as of Superboy #26. It's nice to see Kon-El back in #33.

Speaking of that a fused Kon-El and Jon Kent could alter time-lines outright and create pocket universes in that same issue. Also, the present Jon Kent was able to separate the both of them.

Pretty hardcore psionic power all around.


Exactly. He's operating somewhere between High Herald to mod trans. Extremely powerful. Pretty sure he will not be keeping that upgrade though because if he does, that would make him the most powerful being on the planet. It has always been mentioned that his powers would increase to insane levels but we all know that will not stick when we have certain characters in DCNU that would get placed behind Superboy with this increase. DC will not let that happen.


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The only thing they are really lacking in is telepathy. Besides Kon-El siphoning Kara's memories in Superboy #6 and rewriting her memories in Superman #25, he doesn't have a lot going for him in that area. Jon Kent is able to give Kon-El his memories and that's about all I remember from him.

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The only thing they are really lacking in is telepathy. Besides Kon-El siphoning Kara's memories in Superboy #6 and rewriting her memories in Superman #25, he doesn't have a lot going for him in that area. Jon Kent is able to give Kon-El his memories and that's about all I remember from him.


He doesn't need telepathy. Also, Jon can absorb the powers of other metas just by being in their vicinity (i think you like him because he's evil)...does that mean he can absorb the powers of a telepathic meta and add it to his own? Can't remember off hand if he could or couldn't.


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He doesn't need telepathy. Also, Jon can absorb the powers of other metas just by being in their vicinity (i think you like him because he's evil)...does that mean he can absorb the powers of a telepathic meta and add it to his own? Can't remember off hand if he could or couldn't.


No, I hate Jon Kent it's Kon-El I like but if you mean by other people in general yes maybe.

Anyway, answering your question. I don't think so. The way Jon's absorption works is not that he literally takes someone elses abilities but that he absorbs them to boost his own psionic power.

The first time he did it in Superboy #26 against some lady with lightning powers. Died as a result of Jon absorbing them.

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Less TALKING and more LISTING!

At least give a top 10 for each cataegory.


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I dunno. Any listing I would make probably be inaccurate by some measure. I haven't read every run/series. However, going by the runs I have read so far...

Okay, I will do one for heroes.

1. Kon-El/Jon Kent fused together into a superbeing that can alter time-lines and create universes.

2. Animal Man w/Godseed because he could simply tap into the Red of the universe and mix 'n match the powers of every species in the universe.

3. Batman w/Hellbat suit if the hype surrounding it is to be believed.

4. Kon-El after absorbing Jon Kent's memories.

5. Superman & Supergirl as well as other people such as Wonder Woman, Kon-El prior to absorbing Jon Kent's memories, and anyone in that area.

6. Martian Manhunter

7. Andrew Bennett after being brought back to life by the Crystal One with a large portion of the world's magic and defeating Cain. This might actually be higher I am not sure.

8. Apollo maybe but definitely below Andrew Bennett post his rebirth, as Bennett could defeat the entirety of Stormwatch by himself including Apollo.

That's all I have got. Flash should probably be somewhere near the top five but I haven't read enough of New 52 Flash to say.

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Originally posted by Iskandar
I dunno. Any listing I would make probably be inaccurate by some measure. I haven't read every run/series. However, going by the runs I have read so far...

Okay, I will do one for heroes.

1. Kon-El/Jon Kent fused together into a superbeing that can alter time-lines and create universes.

2. Animal Man w/Godseed because he could simply tap into the Red of the universe and mix 'n match the powers of every species in the universe.

3. Batman w/Hellbat suit if the hype surrounding it is to be believed.

4. Kon-El after absorbing Jon Kent's memories.

5. Superman & Supergirl as well as other people such as Wonder Woman, Kon-El prior to absorbing Jon Kent's memories, and anyone in that area.

6. Martian Manhunter

7. Andrew Bennett after being brought back to life by the Crystal One with a large portion of the world's magic and defeating Cain. This might actually be higher I am not sure.

8. Apollo maybe but definitely below Andrew Bennett post his rebirth, as Bennett could defeat the entirety of Stormwatch by himself including Apollo.

That's all I have got. Flash should probably be somewhere near the top five but I haven't read enough of New 52 Flash to say.


Where would you rank Firestorm/Fury?

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Also, SWAMP THING.

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No idea haven't read any of Firestorm's stuff yet.

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Originally posted by Golgo13
Also, SWAMP THING.


He could fight Superman during the Rotworld storyline. However, Superman was weakened by the Rot and they ultimately needed kryptonite to kill him.

So, probably still below Superman. However, the Green that Swamp Thing drew his powers from was weakened too. So, you could also say they were both not as strong as they normally were then and at full power might still be even.

Also, during the same storyline Animal Man managed to kill the Flash who was also weakened by the Rot. Once again, the Red which Animal Man drew his powers from was also weakened during this time as the Rot had taken over the world.

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Superman was still more powerful than Superboy who was creating universes or timelines due to his decisions. Not due to his own power. Superman was stated like a thousand times to be the most powerful being on planet under the same writer aka Lobdell.

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In short, a lot of context left out there.


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There are 2 Superboys now?


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There are 2 Superboys now?


They showed a whole multiverse of them.

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There are 2 Superboys now?

Lobdell is stupid.

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