Both Characters can negate speed steal with Cosmic Energy generating.
Surfer's Cosmic Awareness can allow him to know what the Speedsters can do and not do.
both characters have super strength and durability base line . Add in the further amp from Lightspeed movement makes them way more powerful than Flash or Zoom can hope to be.
Surfer can drain any form Form energy as well matter manipulation which neither DC speedster can counter.
Runner has a Aura that makes you docile which will be a great boon of any initial attack on him.
Surfer and Runner have beaten far better than these Speedsters have from what I seen on the forums.
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Last edited by CadenceV2 on Aug 31st, 2014 at 04:26 PM
Agreed, but here you have characters with some similarities power wise, but one of them is a full tier beyond the field, with transcendant feats to back it up...
Thanos had to resort to the Time Gem to defeat Runner; Surfers attacks had no effect on Runner...
You really think these two (Wally and Hunter) are comparable to this Trans Tier character? Runner is in a different weight class than these two...
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The only similarity is that there are 3 characters that are very fast and then there's Surfer. The reason they're fast is different, the applications of their speed are different, and the abilities besides the speed are different.
Wally is ridiculously faster in terms of combat speed than anybody on team 1. In a CIS/PIS-less environment he solos this. Then there's Zoom, who makes Wally look like a drunk snail.
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To say Wally can KO runner at all is asinine too. He is durability wise on. Thanos level, and has Lightspeed travel as well. In most feats with. Wally he cannot go full Lightspeed without run ing up to that speed. So Runner's Aura should keep il fine in he initial attacks.
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Yes. So? It's common sense that a stationary body has to accelerate to reach a certain speed, and Wally is no exception.
The problem is Wally can do that before either one on team 2 can blink.
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Runners aura immediately took effect on Surfer; the exact time frame was never specified however...
And why is it asinine to question wether they could harm Runner or not?
Surfers attacks had no effect on Runner; how would you rate Surfers attack power compared to Flash and Zoom? At best (and I honestly believe that they have less attack power than Surfer) equal...
Which would make Runner invulnerable to what they could dish out...
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