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DC and Marvel monopolies

Each Company has monopolies on certain types of concepts and characters.
List them, add them, rate them, switch them out if you dont agree...

Mutants-Marvel

Alien heroes (on earth)-DC

Sidekicks-DC

Teen heroes-Marvel

Science and scientists-Marvel

Established future-DC

Speedsters-DC

Magic-???

Gods and best defined pantheons-Marvel

WWII heroes-DC

Street levelers-Marvel

Just to start things off...


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Interesting on teen heroes being MArvel, but sidekicks being DC - stepping out of the shadows of their mentors?

Also:

Female heroes - ??
Telepaths - ??


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Interesting on teen heroes being MArvel, but sidekicks being DC - stepping out of the shadows of their mentors?

Also:

Female heroes - ??
Telepaths - ??

Marvel's teen heroes arent really sidekicks, but DC has a bunch.

Telepathy, psionics, TP? I think Marvel has the edge.

No idea on female heroes.

Also undecided on present day space. Both have big name characters, well established continuities/races...


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I forgot:

Multiverse-DC


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Re: DC and Marvel monopolies

Mutants - Marvel - Though DC had the first Mutant, Captain Comet

Alien heroes (on earth) - DC

Sidekicks - DC

Teen heroes - Split, if you think about Teen Titans

Science and scientists - Marvel, by far, they are a Science Universe

Established future - Split, both have enough alternate Futures

Speedsters - DC

Magic - DC is more magical than science imo

Gods and best defined pantheons - Split, don't forget New Gods and WonderWoman and the Greek Pantheon

WWII heroes - DC, though CA is a force to be respected

Street levelers - Marvel

Universal importance of heroes - DC, in DC Heroes play major roles in their Universes, they don't have as many abstracts, this role is reserved for the heroes instead

Universal, Abstract, hierarchy - Marvel, Celestials, M-Bodies of Abstracts etc.


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Good stuff Prof.

Good point on the future. I was thinking of the LoSH when i chose. That future's pretty solid, as a whole. It keeps getting tweaked to death, though!


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I agree with Batman P list minus the Universe importance and the Gods.


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I agree with Batman P list minus the Universe importance and the Gods.


The most common Pantheons are for Marvel the Greek one and the Norse one. For DC it is the Greek one and the New Gods, both are very well established, though there are other Gods roaming around in both.

As for the Universal Importance.

Superman is for example the most important being in the DC Universe, take Final Crisis and Infinite Crisis, "everything comes from Superman". Also Kyle Rayner, Hal Jordan, Flash, they all performed Actions that changed the Whole Multiverse, they are the "Abstracts" that change things. Kyle as Ion, Hal as Parallax, Flash in Flashpoint. Also if you look at the Multiversal defense the DC Universe has, you won't find an army of Celestials or Galactus or whatever Abstracts Marvel has, you will find Heroes, united by Monitors to safe the Omniverse.

In Marvel, if something major happens, the Abstracts will gather and play their part, Watchers, Celestials, Galactus and LT.


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Then how did that make marvel less in the universal/multiversal?

Marvel had specific people per specific task vs DC supers doing double duty

Plus marvel may not be uni/multiversal in power but that didn't mean they are slouches in that respect, look at Infinity/Original Sin/the whole incursion stuff they're dealing with


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Well thats fine, i want different opinions! thumb up


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I kinda feel like Captain America alone refutes any claim that DC holds a monopoly on WWII heroes, to say nothing of the rest of the Invaders. I get that DC has it's own share though, but that's exactly what Cap IS as a character concept...

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My opinion is that Cap's the best example of a WWII character, but DC has a more well defined era.


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Marvel has the 'Healing Factor' thing covered.

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Re: DC and Marvel monopolies

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Originally posted by riv6672
Each Company has monopolies on certain types of concepts and characters.
List them, add them, rate them, switch them out if you dont agree...

Mutants-Marvel

Alien heroes (on earth)-DC

Sidekicks-DC

Teen heroes-Marvel

Science and scientists-Marvel

Established future-DC

Speedsters-DC

Magic-???

Gods and best defined pantheons-Marvel

WWII heroes-DC

Street levelers-Marvel

Just to start things off...


Geniuses and Streets, DC has the edge, IMO.

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Magic too.

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Geniuses and Streets, DC has the edge, IMO.
Really? I would think in either category there would be way too many examples to give one company the edge. Didn't you have a thread a while back about DC vs Marvel geniuses and there were an obvious ton of characters to use for both companies?

Same thing goes for streets.

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&golgo13

Completely disagree.
Marvel has some if the best scientists in comics.
DC has the most prominent street leveler in Batman, but Marvel has the better defined street level scene.
Thanks, though!


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Really? I would think in either category there would be way too many examples to give one company the edge. Didn't you have a thread a while back about DC vs Marvel geniuses and there were an obvious ton of characters to use for both companies?

Same thing goes for streets.


Yeah, I created a few. And, IMO, the DC had the edge in terms of depth and formidably, even though Marvel has the 2 premier super geniuses, Doom and Reed.

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Completely disagree.
Marvel has some if the best scientists in comics.
DC has the most prominent street leveler in Batman, but Marvel has the better defined street level scene.
Thanks, though!


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t547294.html

If you think Marvel has the edge, explain yourself. I see things differently.

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Here is the one Existere is talking about.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1

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