Wasn't AS Superman one of the weakest iterations of the character just above Bryne's Superman? Anyways, Superman was tossed into the Moon, and was significantly injured by it, while Adam nearly split it in half with a war medal. I think Adam could take a dying Superman, but I'm still waiting for more feats on him.
Excuse me but what are you asking me here? Who tossed him into the Moon? The Kryptonian couple grabbed him and nearly split the Moon in two. Do you remember that? Also is that what you are asking me?
Yes that's my point, Adam would be up against a dying Superman from the jump. I recall that they were called Bar-El and Lilo (the ones that tossed him into the Moon). All the same like I said, you're pitting a dying Superman against Adam here, and I believe that Adam could win, he just doesn't have a great deal of feats outside of the good ones that he does have.
At his best he is still dying. All the same AS Superman wasn't exactly the most powerful iteration of Superman either. Adam may be able to take him. I also don't recall him having it off that bad just before the confrontation with Bar-El and Lilo.
AS Superman is one of the strongest incarnations if going by averages. Beating two guys simultaneously,who have billions of tons strength, in arm wrestling without straining (smiling) casually lifting quintillions of tons, lifting a half million ton key like its a normal key, etc.
BA greatest feat (not his average) is knocking Sentry into space. This is up to tens of billions of tons of force. Then there is the speed difference (going to alpha centaur I to pick flowers and back in a quick moment) and versatility (hv and freeze breath etc).
What makes you believe that I would be wiling to take anything that you say seriously when you begin throwing out numbers that were never mentioned? Yes Superman was lifting in the quintillion's of tons, but Adam was never given a number on how much he could actually lift. All we know is that he carried an asteroid the size of a large US state. Not sure what that would be in tons, but it may be more than AS Superman was capable of.
Yes his condition began at the very beginning of the arc. AS Superman was dying from the jump, just like I said. What do you want me to say to you? He was plenty strong, but I'm not sure if he was as strong as BM. This is why I never gave BM a sure win. Maybe someone else may have some ideas.
He fought them in A/S #9--so yeah, he was approaching the end-stages of his life. He had also just returned to earth after an extended stay on the Bizarro planet/under a red sun, which had completely drained his powers.
We go by feats to get a limit to the strength a character has. Otherwise we would be committing a no limits fallacy. So although Superman casually lifted 200 quintillion tons with one hand, he most likely can lift more with one hand. But we can only take that as his limit.
Now let's get into math.
AS Superman casually lifted 200 quintillion tons with one hand. So with two hands he could have easily lifted more than 400 quintillion tons.
In BM asteroid feat. An asteroid the size of Arkansas would have a weight of about 60-100 quintillion tons on Earth. So taking Blue Marvels best strength feat, we find that AS Superman is at least 4x stronger.
Adding in being vastly faster combined with freeze breath and hv, this is a stomp.
how do you know how much Arkansas weighs? Blue Marvel also didn't seem to be struggling with the weight either. I'm just trying to understand how you know how much Arkansas weighs? I looked on www.howstuffworks.com, and could not get a clear answer. This is just more of your made up nonsense, not to mention that the amount of weight that Superman was lifting would have destroyed the metal beam that he was pushing against, but that's comic logic for you. What's your excuse?
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