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aside from kaluu, (who i'm only assuming does) does anyone have a way to keep from having their mind crushed by manchester....? not sure if bm has any feats against tp. black's illusions are ridiculously powerful as well, and even if he has some tp resist feats, they won't be as good as superman's and we know what black did to him. not to mention the level of tk he brings....not sure the avengers have an answer for black in this line-up unless spectrum blitzes him instantly, before he mindrapes her puts up a shield. i guess it'd maybe be a quickdraw because if he brings hos power to bear i think they are totally effd.
So, you are asking a question, re-wording your question as a statement.
Sticking with my choice.
Moving on, until something worthwhile gets contributed.
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lol
i love how you have to answer your own question. if you say the avengers, then you are supposing they can resist tp. if that is your supposition, it is on YOU to prove said supposition. or at the least say "i don't know if they can resist tp but i'm picking them anyway because i like the avengers more or know nothing about black and the elite."
feel free to say avengers but it's an illogical stance to take unless proof of protection vs someone of black's psi level is shown.
I look at it as, its not on me to disprove my own pick.
You (or anyone) dont agree with me, thats fine.
You can say that, you can even tell me why (or not), but dont ask me to provide your proof.
If you say D beats E i'll at least say no, E has the ability to churn butter at the speed of sound, trumping D in this case. I wont ask you how powerful Ds ability to butter toast at bullet time is.
Superman does not resist TP as much as he fights through it. This is something that Adam has also done, or does. Neither Superman or Adam are TP tanks so I was hoping to dispel this myth before it took off. Kaluu should also be able to fight against it as he has all of Stephen Strange's teachings if not more due to being a student of the mystic arts at the same time as the Ancient One. He's also practiced these techniques for over 500 yrs while living in the dimension of Raggadorr. Kaluu also employs black magic and has no qualms against employing forces such as Satanish.
There is more than enough proof to say that he alone could combat Manchestor Black, and enthrall him mystically. Kaluu once battled both Dr. Strange, and his master the Ancient One. During the battle Kaluu memorized the entire Book of the Vishanti (apparently possessing a total recall memory). Strange himself has battled a Thanosi of the mind, and held his own against the being in a TP battle. Very recently he was easily capable of holding off the Scarlet Witch's hex powers, and even seemed to believe that she was an amateur in terms of utilizing her powers. That's saying quite a bit since Wanda employs Chaos magics.
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well, i know you can't be comparing adam with superman in regards to will power or the ability to resist tp, so.....we'll forget that part happened. could adam resist? maybe, i guess, but certainly it would require proof to make that supposition, and i've not seen any. and of course it would need to be some feats of enormous will power, maybe GREATER than superman's, since he did fall prey to black's tp--and no one would be able to resist his even greater power--his tk.
as i said, initially, the only one with a chance would be kaluu, but i didn't know what feats he had. so, i agree. he may be able to battle black telepathically. but he would have no answer for black's tk. if black simply decided to snap his neck, i don't see what kaluu could do to stop it. and lest we forget this isn't just black trying to solo--though i think he would have a chance to do so. the hat is a walking plot device with that hat of his, able to pull, basically whatever he needs from it, and cold cast could certainly be an answer to carol....imo, in a random encounter the avengers don't have much chance in this match.
Chester casually made bizarro sane and was controlling thousands of super villains from different universes. Coldcast can simply shut everyone here with an electron blast etc. Hat was immune to any physical harm.
Elite were ridiculously powerful, they were casually destroying moons and putting out enough power to ignite a sun. I don't fancy avengers chance here.
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