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as always with these attempts at overarching definitions, it is based on the use of some, and ignoring of other, evidence. hang ups on terminology will always lead to arguments. i've no doubt that if someone wanted to contend the issue regarding omniverse, they could do so by posting evidence showing a DIFFERENT interpretation. it appears the current map of the multiverse ALREADY threw a monkey wrench into all that effort. is there support for what they are saying? sure there is. but could contradictory evidence paint a different picture? i've very little doubt it could. imo this type of effort can make for some entertaining discussion, but should never be taken--nor take itself--too seriously.
Since DC hasn't given us their official definition of an omniverse, it almost seems like some writers use the terms "multiverse" and "omniverse" interchangeably, as a means of simply describing an infinite amount of universes.
Here's another very recent/blatant example from Klarion #1: http://i.imgur.com/6GKQP4I.jpg "The multiverse is awesome. An infinity of choice."
Now the real question is: will Convergence build upon the current DC continuum(ie. add infinite universes to the existing infinite universes), or will it simply expand upon the infinitude of possibilities that are already present? I suppose we'll find out soon enough, though I *hope* it's the latter.
The guy posted a scan of booster gold mentioning a megaverse, and also he included the definition of the metaverse used in some superman comic. AND he showed that in final crisis secret files there was a mention of multiple multiverses. He ALSO posted a scan where it showed that sloane from the earth 2 worlds end series mentions a neighboring multiverse.
I know Marvel has an index of terminologies, and DC doesnt, hence DC seems to constantly change between terminologies. We know from Didio that every reality throughout the history of DC exists now, we know that they cannot exist within the new 52 multiverse as it would be inconsistant to the new 52 new gods and the 5d imps, so those realities must exist outside the multiverse. Convergence also canonizes all of DC's past continuities, and in final crisis secret files it was stated that the bleed barrier contains multiverses. Superman: the next mentions the metaverse alongside its definition and in 52 #52 Booster Gold mentions a future threat as the megaverse. Surely this should add to DC's definition of an omniverse.
Also Earth 2 Worlds End #5 has terry sloane mentioning a neighboring multiverse. So at the very least, DC's definition of an omniverse must be multiple multiverses.
This is not suprising as Scott wrote the krypton returns story arc, which featured the most mentions of the omniverse, ironically scott is also writing convergence.
Every Reality prior to flashpoint, including the pre-crisis multiverse, are now canonized. Besides theres also a link to a quote from terry sloane from the Earth 2 worlds end series, issue 5 to be precise.
yeah thats no longer canon, and has been retconned, it completely contradicts the new 52's continuity. Also i would argue thats a map of the preflashpoint multiverse, but whatever i guess.
Also look up convergences week 1 line up, didio posted it on his facebook page, one of the quotes labels, fight between multiverses, and fight for infinite earths.
"Well, Arrow and Flash are the same universe, and we get a lot of great story out of that — especially when we have episodes that cross them over, but that’s also where our superhero universe lives. We look at it as the multiverse. We have our TV universe and our film universe, but they all co-exist. For us, creatively, it’s about allowing everyone to make the best possible product, to tell the best story, to do the best world. Everyone has a vision and you really want to let the visions shine through. I think the characters are iconic enough. I like [Marvel’s Agents of] S.H.I.E.L.D. a lot. I love what Marvel does. I’m a huge fan. It’s just a different approach."
Canon how exactly? it doesnt fit in any part of DC's continuity.
"This April, DC Comics begins their CONVERGENCE event. Forty mini-series will take readers back to a pre-“Flashpoint” DCU. Leaving behind the New 52, we’ll be checking in with everyone from a married Superman to Oracle and other classic heroes, as if they were never swept from the continuity with the 2011 reboot.
So, is CONVERGENCE tied to whatever is going on with FUTURE’S END? No one knows. However, it seems awfully convenient that we’re popping over to the old universe around the same time the New 52 world is quickly unraveling. Maybe this is just a trip down memory lane for long time readers. Maybe it’s a way for DC to get back to the pre-Flashpoint continuity as the main universe. Maybe multiverses will smash together to forge a new timeline. Maybe none of these things. Only time will tell."
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