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Maestro Hulk vs Cyborg Superman

1. No rings for Henshaw

2. With rings

Who wins


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By "no rings/rings" I'm taking it as Preboot. I'm going Cy in both. Stomp with rings.


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Both of them win.


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Both of them win.


Normally you agreeing with me makes me think I might be wrong, but the paradox of you siding with a Superman related character(clone even!!) against an incarnation of Hulk makes me really unsure of what to do.

I might have to kill myself to avoid the coming apocalypse.


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Normally you agreeing with me makes me think I might be wrong, but the paradox of you siding with a Superman related character(clone even!!) against an incarnation of Hulk makes me really unsure of what to do.

I might have to kill myself to avoid the coming apocalypse.


Lol...even if one of them pull a 1 out of 10, the both of them win. Also, it's good to agree with me, I'm always right.


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Lol...even if one of them pull a 1 out of 10, the both of them win. Also, it's good to agree with me, I'm always right.


If you're always right, you'll be able to tell me what my hair and eye color are, as well as what I last ate for dinner and when.

I'll be waiting for me to prove your omniscience.


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1. Maestro
2. Cyborg


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1. Maestro dies.
2. Maestro dies harder.


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1. Maestro


I could of sworn Hank was not only supposed to be some cyborg thing, but that he had jacked Superman's DNA and given himself kryptonian powers on top of that. I must of heard wrong then, because if that were true Maestro(or any Hulk) would be unable to achieve even a single victory against Hank.


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Henshaw.

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Originally posted by Surtur
I could of sworn Hank was not only supposed to be some cyborg thing, but that he had jacked Superman's DNA and given himself kryptonian powers on top of that. I must of heard wrong then, because if that were true Maestro(or any Hulk) would be unable to achieve even a single victory against Hank.


Physically, he's more like a less restrained Pre-DOS Superman. It's his other powers that make him a bigger danger. Technopathy(control over technology), self-repair(has fixed himself after having a hole blasted into him from Parallax trying to kill him) and reform himself(has connected himself to a techno-planet becoming larger, in HUNTER/PREY turned himself into a 12 or foot so mech-like form, then a larger four legged form), and the ability to morph himself to make various types of weapons. He had actually made weapons individually for each member of Superman Rescue Squad(Superboy, Steel, Matrix-Supergirl and Eradicator) tuned for each member.


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Cyborg, every single time.


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I could of sworn Hank was not only supposed to be some cyborg thing, but that he had jacked Superman's DNA and given himself kryptonian powers on top of that. I must of heard wrong then, because if that were true Maestro(or any Hulk) would be unable to achieve even a single victory against Hank.


I saw Maestro's trophy room, and I could have sworn that I saw the Surfer's board lying around along with Thor's hammer. Maestro's no joke. Now since this is neutral ground, and not Cybertron, Hank doesn't get to send puppet bots in to save his bacon while Maestro pulls him apart piece by piece. The rings may not even save him.


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I saw Maestro's trophy room, and I could have sworn that I saw the Surfer's board lying around along with Thor's hammer. Maestro's no joke. Now since this is neutral ground, and not Cybertron, Hank doesn't get to send puppet bots in to save his bacon while Maestro pulls him apart piece by piece. The rings may not even save him.


One: Off-panel is hard to really accept. Two: You've just channeled old school carter. I thought you were better than this. You disappoint me.


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One: Off-panel is hard to really accept. Two: You've just channeled old school carter. I thought you were better than this. You disappoint me.



Well we can be certain that the nuke, or the fall out wasn't the culprit that took Norrin's life. When you think about it that way, it doesn't seem too much like a blind claim now does it? Then we have evidence of it actually having been the Hulk that killed those heroes. Just look at the Hulk several issues ago when he was dreaming. From that point of view, we know that Marvel intended for the reader to come to the conclusion that it was actually the Hulk that beat them to death. Also this thing about having Superman's DNA doesn't wash. I mean pre NU52 Superboy also had Superman's DNA, but I wouldn't give him even 5% odds of taking Maestro.


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Well we can be certain that the nuke, or the fall out wasn't the culprit that took Norrin's life. When you think about it that way, it doesn't seem too much like a blind claim now does it? Then we have evidence of it actually having been the Hulk that killed those heroes. Just look at the Hulk several issues ago when he was dreaming. From that point of view, we know that Marvel intended for the reader to come to the conclusion that it was actually the Hulk that beat them to death. Also this thing about having Superman's DNA doesn't wash. I mean pre NU52 Superboy also had Superman's DNA, but I wouldn't give him even 5% odds of taking Maestro.


Off-panel is a big ? at best.

That argument is significantly flawed. For one, it's more than Cy having Superman's DNA but the combination of him being a less restrained Pre-DOS level clone plus all his other abilities.

But even ignoring that, your comparison is absolutely flawed. Connor is a teenager, and it's shown that part of a Kryptonian's strength comes from age, size/build and gender like people in the real world. But Connor is also half-human. Kara was stronger than him despite being smaller, similar age(well, physical age for both actually) and a girl. So that comparison is a strawman I believe. Unintentional, perhaps.

And you think Maestro would win even when Henshaw has the Power Rings. No. How he was treating Superman in SINESTRO CORPS WAR definitely says "HELL NO."


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I see my name was brought up in in a topic that doesn't involve me. The love.


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I see my name was brought up in in a topic that doesn't involve me. The love.


I'm still waiting for you to answer this.

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If you're always right, you'll be able to tell me what my hair and eye color are, as well as what I last ate for dinner and when.

I'll be waiting for me to prove your omniscience.


You have 5 minutes or you concede to being in love with Pr and Abhi, hence your constant seeking their bashing, because you're a closeted masochist. And that you lied about always being right, you pervert.


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Off-panel is a big ? at best.

That argument is significantly flawed. For one, it's more than Cy having Superman's DNA but the combination of him being a less restrained Pre-DOS level clone plus all his other abilities.

But even ignoring that, your comparison is absolutely flawed. Connor is a teenager, and it's shown that part of a Kryptonian's strength comes from age, size/build and gender like people in the real world. But Connor is also half-human. Kara was stronger than him despite being smaller, similar age(well, physical age for both actually) and a girl. So that comparison is a strawman I believe. Unintentional, perhaps.

And you think Maestro would win even when Henshaw has the Power Rings. No. How he was treating Superman in SINESTRO CORPS WAR definitely says "HELL NO."


No no no. you're playing the game the wrong way. Surtur said that Hank even has Superman's DNA, as if that alone gives him the win. I simply brought light to that type of thinking. Kal has the glow. He can do things that Ultraman will never be able to do because of this. That does not rub off on Hank simply because he has his DNA. Hank may be a less restrained half Superman with out the glow doesn't mean much to me. Maestro's a killer as well. Hank also doesn't get to morph into something greater on neutral ground with no tech to manipulate. Green Scar aside, Maestro was the most powerful non amplified Hulk ever. He walked the Earth soaking up ambient radiation for years on end, which made him much more powerful. This is seen when he effortlessly man handles the Merged Hulk. I also do not agree with your attempts of nullifying hard evidence presented in front of you in the form of Maestro's Trophy Room. If it was Doom's trophy Room, we wouldn't be debating whether he killed all of the Heroes. It would be logically accepted. Like I said, Marvel even goes further just a few issues ago to show that it was a rogue version of the Hulk that split the Heroes wigs. Because of the fact that it was in a dream sequence points in that general direction, that he was the actual cause of the deaths of the heroes in his future imperfect time line.

Is Maestro strong enough to damage Hank? Hell yes.


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I'm still waiting for you to answer this.



You have 5 minutes or you concede to being in love with Pr and Abhi, hence your constant seeking their bashing, because you're a closeted masochist. And that you lied about always being right, you pervert.


Lol...I already answered the question though. I know all. Next screen name, Bruce Almighty.


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