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God Doom vs. COIE Anti-Monitor

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Doom.

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"God" Doom was the most overrated PoS ever.

Full Power CoIE AM destroys him.


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laughing out loud

i can almost agree with that completely. thumb up


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The problem with Dr. Doom's godhood was that both the Phoenix Force and Infinity Gems could both briefly hold their own against him. So it's very different from the classic portrayals of godhood in Marvel when people just snapped each other out of existence.

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Doom, easily. Supergirl.


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Doom easily

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Doom, easily. Supergirl.


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Doom easily
Great posts by two great posters.

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laughing out loud yep guess that ends the discussion. thumb up


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The OP leads me to believe that this is COIE Anti-Monitor at the Dawn of Time...

God Doom gets annihilated by this version of the Anti-Monitor...


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At his peak, COIE AM was low-megaversal level. That is to say, he had the power of nearly 2 infinite multiverses. Flip side, it took everything God Doom had to stalemate an Infinity Gauntlet, which are exclusively universal in this day and age.

AM wins, imo.


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Flip side, it took everything God Doom had to stalemate an Infinity Gauntlet, which are exclusively universal in this day and age.

Which doesn't make any sense. All, or almost all universes, have their own version of the IG. In all the infinite universes NOT one person thought of assembling the IG and stopping the Beyonders rampage?

ONE IG gave Doom with the Beyonders power the fight of his life. Two or three would have ended this whole nonsense.


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I agree. I mean, the power of the friggin Starbrand can kill a Beyonder, after all, so I would assume the IG in its native universe --or even a UN for that matter-- could have wiped the floor with the entire race. Perhaps said items weren't included on purpose, as it wouldn't have made for a very interesting story if an IG or UN wielder showed up and massacred the entire race with a gesture/click, lol...

On that note, the Beyonders should thank their graces that the Council of Reeds wasn't around at the time, or their machinations would have never even got past the development phase.


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Originally posted by Galan007
At his peak, COIE AM was low-megaversal level. That is to say, he had the power of nearly 2 infinite multiverses. Flip side, it took everything God Doom had to stalemate an Infinity Gauntlet, which are exclusively universal in this day and age.

AM wins, imo.


Hi, Galan. I think that this match be interesting, because in Ultimates vol. 2 #5 it is said omniverse:

http://imgur.com/ngLoUGJ

"The omniverse ended, and began again".


Then, Doom is omniversal?

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Hi, Galan. I think that this match be interesting, because in Ultimates vol. 2 #5 it is said omniverse:

http://imgur.com/ngLoUGJ

"The omniverse ended, and began again".


Then, Doom is omniversal?


That seems more like authors opinion (or one likes to use different terms to describe the same thing.

Hickman always referenced an Multiverse.


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The omniverse or multiverse(whichever terminology you choose to go with) was destroyed as a result of the incursion fiasco, but Doom never had the full power of the Beyonder race. He only had as much power as Owen --who was the conduit/medium/reservoir for said power-- allowed him to access at any given time... Which was only enough to defeat a universal IG after a prolonged battle.


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^^ ... calling it a "universal" IG is an unintentional mislead imo.
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Flip side, it took everything God Doom had to stalemate an Infinity Gauntlet,

which are exclusively universal in this day and age.

The IG only being able to operate within a certain amount of space-time is relative good friend.

Because within that space-time it is "all-powerful" ...
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Which doesn't make any sense. All, or almost all universes, have their own version of the IG.
In all the infinite universes NOT one person thought of assembling the IG and stopping the Beyonders rampage
?

ONE IG gave Doom with the Beyonders power the fight of his life. Two or three would have ended this whole nonsense.

It doesn't work that way though old pal.

An IG makes the wielder "God" of a particular chunk of the multiverse,
another IG makes the wielder "God" of another separate specific chunk of the multiverse,
and on, and on with the countless IGs in their independent universes.

Two IGs or more wouldn't work in unison sharing the same space.

Doom stalemated the most powerful being in the omniverse.

It sounds ridiculous, but all IGs are the most powerful items in the omniverse.

So long as they are within their respective realities, no one can phuk with them, save for another "God" (ergo Doom)


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"All-powerful" is clearly hyperbole, given that Doom beat it. It is still a universal item, however, so no, it is not a misleading title at all--it's a factual one. smile


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Doom was supposed to be, like God or whatever though.

Yet, if he did win, then Doom was uber as hell.

Imo, the fact that that IG gave God Doom a fight speaks volumes about it's depth of power.

Doom was certainly far beyond a universal power and yet the IG wasn't whisked away.


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Yet, Cap broke an IG just with trying to stop an incursion. All-powerful? Probably not.


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