Yeah, Sidious best TP feats include casually mindraping the some 20 billion population of Byss, mindwiping millions/billions of people to hide a star destroyer on Coruscant, mindraping Vader, and twisting DE Luke so thoroughly to the dark side that the latter forgot his own name. So gauge him off those, I guess.
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If he's got enough telepathic power to mindwipe 20 billion people at once then he should win.
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Byss was a dark side nexus... It amped the power of dark side users on the planet tremendously. Without such a nexus point empowering him, Palpatine is nowhere near that level.
Cassandra stomps. Telepathically brutalizing an amped Xavier speaks for itself...
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jun 15th, 2016 at 09:19 PM
Ehh? You may be overrating the value of a nexus here, one IIRC fashioned by none other by The Emperor himself. Heck, Palpatine's been stated on more than one occasion as being the embodiment of the dark side and a force nexus. His death above Endor actually left a force nexus.
And Palpatine's inferior, Emperor Vitiate, while a weakened spirit was able to mindrape the populace of Ziost, a population including civilians and force users alike. So I wouldn't say such a feat is outside of Sheev's capacity, tbh.
There's also long Pre-Prime Palpatine and Plagueis shifting the balance of the force towards the dark side via sheer willpower, (though this involved intense meditation over the course of a few months, this is a universal cosmic power we're talking about, here).
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So the Emperor created the nexus, but did the nexus amp him? If so this is an important detail.
Remember Xavier can collect the thoughts of an entire planet to use as a psychic attack. Nova is at least on his level.
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Last edited by Surtur on Jun 15th, 2016 at 09:30 PM
I mean, he wasn't even on the planet. This was a process he carried on for roughly two decades, slowly siphoning the energies of the entire population to fuel his immortality. The nexus more likely than not did help, but their telepathic subjugation is still credited to, "The Emperor's Dark Side Influence."
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Mind wiping millions is cool, but I feel like it was the Byss "20 billion people mentally effected" that put him on the level of Nova. So without that..
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1.) Mind-phucking millionS of people is several orders of magnitude INFERIOR to mind-phucking billionS of people. In no way/shape/form are these feats even remotely comparable in terms of scale.
2.) Had lots of prep. Was a shared feat with Plagueis. Took a LONG time. Wouldn't help him at all against Cassandra.
You're digging.
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"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
I mean, there's also his Battle Meditation fueling the entire imperial fleet, though it's not mindrape. And his vast inferior (Vitiate) also mindraping a planet's populace.
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How fast can she fully take over someone's mind that has strong tp?
Because Pal can crush her whole body into a bloody pulp instantly.
In other words, say Cassandra outclass Pal in tp by a decent margin. But Pal is strong enough to resist (or fight) the tp long enough to crush her into a bloody pulp. Mindraping millions of people all at once should buy Pal at least a second.