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He-Man vs Thor.

I've been reading on a youtube video thread about how vastly powerful he man's powers are with his sword and battle ax and how vast his strength is as well, seeing a pic of him pushing a moon out of it's orbit and back again with his bare hands, and how he is pretty much as powerful as he needs to be.

So I put him up against basic level Thor with mjolnir of course and all the abilities that it gives him. Fight takes place on eternia. Who wins and why?

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He-man wins because he is basically a Superman with magic. What Constantine is to Batman is what He-man is to Superman. Except that He-man is also on par with PC Supes physically. Thor can't win. Not enough firepower to KO.


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He-Man fights guys like Beast Man, while Thor fights guys like Hulk ...Just take an average from both their rouges gallery and do the math.


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Thor will find a way to get himself ko'd.


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Thor will find a way to get himself ko'd.
He may not have to if He Man is all that some say that he is.

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thor would win with his hammer, but he-man is powerful. digi does a GREAT job of showcasing him in this BZ. it is a composite version though, using all his best feats across media so not a clear example of what any ONE version could do. instead, it's the best of ALL worlds. still, should give you a pretty good idea of where he is powerwise. low herald is pretty accurate imo.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t600780.html


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thor would win with his hammer, but he-man is powerful. digi does a GREAT job of showcasing him in this BZ. it is a composite version though, using all his best feats across media so not a clear example of what any ONE version could do. instead, it's the best of ALL worlds. still, should give you a pretty good idea of where he is powerwise. low herald is pretty accurate imo.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t600780.html
Low herald you say?...........not according to this video analysis.

https://youtu.be/kfrOaNxqlpQ

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meh, i've seen ALL of those feats. the first superman fight was pre-crisis and not much of anything anyway. the stabbed superman of course wasn't the real superman, so it's a meaningless fight. believe what you'd like of course, but digi knows him really well, and if he is confident low herald is where he should be, then i'm confident as well. from what i've seen, it's pretty accurate though i think a case could be made for lower end mid herald.


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Bump.

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Lol...that isn't a bump.


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A case could be made for mid, yes. However, he lacks mobility, his rogues gallery is pathetic, and he's occasionally had issues with low durability showings relative to his other feats. And the PC Supes fight is a complete non-feat for either one. He-Man has some utter cheese feats to stand alongside any ridiculous PC character. But on the whole, he's where he belongs in the tiers. With a possible few exceptions, The mid tier on this forum would mop the floor with him.

With Mjolnir, Thor wins. Much as I love Adam, it's not really a debate in my mind.


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A case could be made for mid, yes. However, he lacks mobility, his rogues gallery is pathetic, and he's occasionally had issues with low durability showings relative to his other feats. And the PC Supes fight is a complete non-feat for either one. He-Man has some utter cheese feats to stand alongside any ridiculous PC character. But on the whole, he's where he belongs in the tiers. With a possible few exceptions, The mid tier on this forum would mop the floor with him.

With Mjolnir, Thor wins. Much as I love Adam, it's not really a debate in my mind.


How much would you give Thor over H Man? They need to do a complete crossover and put him in DC so that he can fellowship with the JLA and fight some baddies.


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How much would you give Thor over H Man? They need to do a complete crossover and put him in DC so that he can fellowship with the JLA and fight some baddies.


If Thor doesn't fight dumb, 10/10. Even if he does, probably a split. He could KO Adam, but might get stabbed too many times.

People forget that Thor's best feats aren't any less ridiculous. He just has more consistency and appearances to back them up.

Granted, if they fought in a comic, who knows. But based on feats, history, powers, etc., yeah, Thor wins.


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He-Man has one thing Thor does not, legit higher end super-speed.


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So does Thor. You know, going ftl on multiple occasions. Thor wins and its not close imo. He can do to many things with Mjolnir that neither Supes or Adam can do. Thors rogue gallery destroys Adams. Thor has hurt and beaten to many beings that are way past trans to lose to He-man.

Thor rides away on Battle-cat getting brain from Sheera 6/10

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Thor has low meta speed.

Around Spiderman or Wolverine level.

Travelling FTL in the vastness of space is a god damn trope and rarely applicable to reflexes.


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Thor has low meta speed.

Around Spiderman or Wolverine level.

Travelling FTL in the vastness of space is a god damn trope and rarely applicable to reflexes.


Agreed. Vulcan traveled through space far faster than light and had trouble stopping a bullet.


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@Shadowfyre, I agree with most of what you said based on feats and such, but I could see an argument being formed to inquire about exactly how powerful He-Man's rogues were, in comparison to existing canon, albeit from another company. Such as Marvel, and DC?

His canon after all does revolve around him being from an entirely different reality than 616, which by chance includes all of the divergent Earth's that exist in DC canon. Beast Man on Earth may be just as strong as the Juggernaut. He Man has certainly exceeded Cain's top strength feat by miles. He Man was able to push a moon, while it took Cain, years to escape a Citadel approaching the size of Mount Fuji. I think most would agree that He-Man is the stronger of the two. Then again, we could be looking at the same thing and come out with two different views. Just wanted to put that out there.

Thor would have his hands full IMO.

Oh. and before I forget, her name is Tila. I mean He Man's Lois Lane.


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Agreed, HM is stronger. It's just one stat, but it's really hard to beat Adam on pure strength. But if we're going to fixate on the moon feat, which is ~30 years old and written by a team of writers that were apparently high all the time, let's compare it to, say, the Midgard Serpent, which is equally shitgoose crazy. It just wasn't animated like a toddler's fever dream, so it doesn't seem outlandish.


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Agreed, HM is stronger. It's just one stat, but it's really hard to beat Adam on pure strength. But if we're going to fixate on the moon feat, which is ~30 years old and written by a team of writers that were apparently high all the time, let's compare it to, say, the Midgard Serpent, which is equally shitgoose crazy. It just wasn't animated like a toddler's fever dream, so it doesn't seem outlandish.


Agreed. but it is still all canon to the character, because nothing was said to have changed the myth surrounding the Eternians. All of the characters are still in a struggle to protect the universe from dangers. Skeletor, Evil Lynne (or however it's spelled. They never as much had to revamp the story. They really just reintroduced them over again.

Strength means a lot in this case, because He-Man would get into combat range with Thor. Thor fights a certain way, and has fought that way since forever. He may win, but he's taking some heat. I could actually see Adam winning TBH.


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