Herc might outfight him, but the power of Zeus (imo) infuses CM with more than 'Hercules level' strength., and cant be turned off, so that gives him an edge in strength.
I don't know. People assume Billy more or less = to Superman which is false. He's an entire tier below him (at least). He's more WW (sans any upgrades like God of War) level.
I'm going with Hercules on this. Hell even if Billy used his lightening it shouldn't work on Herc. It was shown that even Mortal Herc is immune to it because of his connection to Zeus.
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Hercules is a tier below Captain Marvel as well. Superman is above Captain Marvel, but Cap is still closer to him than Superman.
I don't think that necessarily means anything for DC Zeus, at least for a forum fight without any precedence. Although that's not relevant as that was disqualified in the OP.
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traditionally, marvel was possessed of the strength of hercules. with the altered origin of his powers i don't know that he is any stronger. i'd need proof to believe he is. if not, their strength should be about even unless you think dc herc>>marvel herc, which i don't. again, if you do feel that way, i'd love to see proof to show the difference. if there are no other powers at play at all, i'd take herc simply because of the skill advantage. abc logic falls short in this case. all powers in play, marvel wins.
not sure where you get that herc is immune to lightning though zop--he's been ko'd at least twice i can recall by thor's lightning--maybe 3 times now that i think about it....
It was Mortal Hercules and he was fighting Storm and a few others. She blasted him with lightening and he just laughed it off saying " I'm a bit surprised, myself. But now that I think about it...what moron would try to tame the son of Zeus with fire from heaven? My father IS the lightning!"
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He was shown affected. Look at his face and body posture. Someone can smack the shit out of me and I feel the pain and then laugh it off. Doesn't mean I wasn't affected.
Captain Marvel often appears somewhat stronger and more durable than Hercules. Just on average.
For example, matching BA. BA is definitely stronger than Hercules through feats.
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meh, depends on how you view rival. cm/supes are rivals when they go head-to-head sure, but by feats supes is WELL above marvel. the same would likely be the case were superman in marvel and fought hulk, or thor. head-to-head they would likely be very close (as they appeared to be in the avengers/jla) but by feats it's not close (at least with thor). depends on where you place more stock--direct battles between them, or extraneous feats. i'd contend that if they fought directly there would be almost no difference between cm and herc (similar to thor and cm in dc vs marvel--the best, most accurately depicted battle in that silly series imo) in terms of strength even though cm likely has better feats (though holding the heavens is a good one....)
of course the OP says no other powers, but now he says cm has his speed so that would be enough advantage to give cm a vast majority, so, meh.
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that wasn't standard herc though i don't think..... and tehre is still a lot more proof to suggest he CAN be harmed by lightning than the other way around. we'd need to see a later, more current depiction of him against lightning to see what marvel is really going for imo.
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Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
