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TheHulkster
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Who has hit harder?Cho Hulk

Cho Hulk causes greater than 123 on rictor scale by pounding moon. With the amount of energy release by this according to this guy:

https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is...ter-scale-quake

Who has matched or exceeded with their fists?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gMUkiru0...00/038_0018.jpg

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didn't destroy the moon though


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Yeah.....your first link that OP provided literally says what a Richter 100 earthquake does.


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Pak is an idiot.


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Put it this way.....whoever argues for Hulk, will have to agree with Flash evacuating a city at 120 trillion times the speed of light.


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Put it this way.....whoever argues for Hulk, will have to agree with Flash evacuating a city at 120 trillion times the speed of light.


Exactly.

Which is why, though, that debating comics is often an exercise in utter futility. Not only do the comic writers not know the limits of physics, but (even worse) they often forget the abilities and histories of their characters. Key examples include Thor and the Green Lantern Corps, all of which have had entire decades of history forgotten.

Although - as silly as moving at high multiples the speed of light is, or punching with the force of 100R - both of which throw out all ideas of science - in comics even the 'smaller' stuff is still impossible to argue logically. For example, flying. Or transmutation of matter. Or gamma and cosmic radiation being beneficial. Or shooting fire from the eyes ....! A being turning into solid moving metal is as ludicrous as punching at 100R or running at trillions of C.

Which is why I personally prefer to debate ideas and precepts (e.g. who would win between a precog and a speedster if both are equivalent in power) rather than wank characters (the usual Hulk vs Superman love/hate fests by their respective fanboys).


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Put it this way.....whoever argues for Hulk, will have to agree with Flash evacuating a city at 120 trillion times the speed of light.
I think it's the reverse, actions supersede statements - so if the action didn't destroy the moon/Flash evacuated an entire city after a nuclear bomb went off - it couldn't have been that much energy/couldn't have been that slow.


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good post. If more people used even a pinch of that sort of reasonableness, 99% of the flame-hatred that passes for debate on here would be gone.

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good post. If more people used even a pinch of that sort of reasonableness, 99% of the flame-hatred that passes for debate on here would be gone.


Thank you.


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Yeah learn from it Darktaint.


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So a quick Google search and basically all life on Earth pretty much ends at around 15.0 on the Richter.

Philosophia- so which one would be the writers intent do you think? The action? Or the hard numbers he presents? I wold have to go with a case by case basis I guess. Im not sure because it's kind of tricky when so many things in comics completely counter what either just happened or was just said.

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I personally go by the action.

We're told Parker has the proportional strength ofa spider. That's like.....20x his body weight. Which isn't that much at all.

But he does do the things he does, and we accept it.

Batman is a 'normal human'. But does things far in excess of that. But we accept his feats.

Mutants have a mutated Gene in their dna...which gives them the ability to grow blue fur, or claws. Fine. It also gives them the ability to control the weather (wha? ) And magnetic fields (uhuh) and be psychic (that's not even real).

But we accept it.


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Re: Who has hit harder?Cho Hulk

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
Cho Hulk causes greater than 123 on rictor scale by pounding moon. With the amount of energy release by this according to this guy:

https://www.quora.com/How-strong-is...ter-scale-quake

Who has matched or exceeded with their fists?

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gMUkiru0...00/038_0018.jpg
superman, gladiator, Hyperion, the real hulk

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Hulk >

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Philosophia- so which one would be the writers intent do you think? The action? Or the hard numbers he presents? I wold have to go with a case by case basis I guess. Im not sure because it's kind of tricky when so many things in comics completely counter what either just happened or was just said.
It's not the first, nor the last time, when writers throw random numbers around, just because it sounds cool. In this case, we have the actual, physical moon being hit - and it's not even cracked in half, nevermind destroyed, nevermind higher than that. When we have a situation where the outcome of the action is in direct contradiction with a statement, such as this, it's obvious that the statement is not to be taken at face value. His all-out attack is clearly unable to destroy the moon. The writer probably thinks richter is a linear scale.

Otherwise, we have stupid shit like Supergirl being hit with more energy than it takes to destroy the Universe by Silver Banshee in her skull:
http://i.imgur.com/GAhEcVL.jpg


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It's not the first, nor the last time, when writers throw random numbers around, just because it sounds cool. In this case, we have the actual, physical moon being hit - and it's not even cracked in half, nevermind destroyed, nevermind higher than that. When we have a situation where the outcome of the action is in direct contradiction with a statement, such as this, it's obvious that the statement is not to be taken at face value. His all-out attack is clearly unable to destroy the moon. The writer probably thinks richter is a linear scale.

Otherwise, we have stupid shit like Supergirl being hit with more energy than it takes to destroy the Universe by Silver Banshee in her skull:
http://i.imgur.com/GAhEcVL.jpg
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Basing it off of that scene, no one hits harder than Hulk in the Herald tier.


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Basing it off of that scene, no one hits harder than Hulk in the Herald tier.

"Ricter scale 123.2 and climbing." That's ᴇ185 joules, or ᴇ115—that's a one followed by 115 zeroes—times the energy of the big bang.

With a punch like that Cho would be able to out TOAA to sleep.


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Basing it off of that scene, no one hits harder than Hulk in the Herald tier.

"Ricter scale 123.2 and climbing." That's ᴇ185 joules, or ᴇ115—that's a one followed by 115 zeroes—times the energy of the big bang.

With a punch like that Cho would be able to put TOAA to sleep.


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Basing it off of that scene, no one hits harder than Hulk in the Herald tier.

Nope. Black Racer and Superman were hovering above the surface of a moon. Superman hit Black Racer so hard, he caused massive cracks on the moon :
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