Weakest character that can overpower juggernaut's defence with brute strength
so we all know juggernaut is invulnerable to physical damage. however, logic tells us that all of this protection and his powers come from cyttorak, therefor, by logic someone more powerful than cyttorak should overcome the defence. but must that character even be more powerful than cyttorak? i mean its not like cyttorak puts his entire effort into protecting juggernaut. after all, juggy has just some portion of cyttoraks power. with all that being said, which character is the weakest one that can physically overcome all that resistance and harm juggernaut?
in this scan he was hurt by fire in his face, not nightcrawler himself. but juggernauts first appearances didnt exactly portray the juggernaut we know. back in those days, the writers didnt plan to portray him yet as this invulnerable force. even beast was able to hurt him h2h. only a little bit later marvel decided to make juggernaut the juggernaut we know today. hence, in his fight vs beast, when hank took away the gem from him, juggernaut turned into an old man Lol. so on paper they are canon but essentially they are not
Last edited by Dareangel on Apr 20th, 2018 at 04:59 PM
Mind you, in the same issue Juggernaut tanked(as in: wasn't even scratched by) multiple slash-attacks from Wolverine:
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And there's not many characters this side of abstract who can outright tank slashes from Logan like that... Moreover, that was also before Juggy was given a bonafide force-field to help protect him(IOW, he was just packing raw physical durability in that issue, lol.)
So yeah, even back then he was portrayed as an 'invulnerable' force. Thing is: Cain usually succumbs to PIS/CIS far harder than pretty much any character, ever.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Apr 21st, 2018 at 01:15 AM
why? they are a bit overpowered no? thought it would be more interesting with average juggs. but then again, both of the versions you mentioned are more powerful, however are they more durable?
yes juggernaut was durable, but he was not what we know today. like you said yourself, all the force field and invulnerability came later. i feel like wolverine wasnt able to cut him due to his superman human durability + armor. while as you can see in his first apearances, blunt force did effect him. the most laughable showing is his fight against beast where juggernaut turns into an old man. this portrays perfectly what he was before. its like the opposite with beast. when beast was just introduced, he was intended to be a powerhouse, something like colossus. but later on marvel decided to take that away and make him just a hairy bouncy scientist.
Last edited by Dareangel on Apr 21st, 2018 at 05:46 AM
i asked if you think one punch man can harm juggernaut, you answered that he can by the definition and his name. therefor, if he can hurt juggernaut just because he is the one punch man, then same thing should apply to TAO as well no?
No, One Punch Man can not destroy TOAA with a punch, because TOAA is above everything else in fiction. TOAA is supposed to be the creator and controller of the Marvel universe, the arguably biggest fictional universe in existence. You can't even pick the top dog in the DC universe and put him against TOAA, because TOAA would still be a good degree above him.
One Punch Man however can destroy even the most powerful being as long as it can be affected by physical damage. That's what the character was created to be. He is a parody of western superheroes and the japanese shonen manga genre. The superhero part is self-explanatory, but the shonen genre always features these heroes, who continue to evolve and always reach a new level of power, which is needed to win a fight. Look at Boros, who was the final boss in the anime. It was pretty much Broly, who continued to obtain new forms and turned into a Super Saiyan 3 by the end, only to still be one-shot by One Punch Man.
Put the Hulk against One Punch Man and Hulk gets pulverized into oblivion. Put Superman up against One Punch Man and Superman gets pulverized into oblivion as well. That's the entire purpose of the character.
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