Good fight, all of Beyonder's most powerful fts were statement that was said by himself
back then the marvel cosmic structure was not as established as they were now. nobody short of TOAA would be able to deal with the entire family of Endless either.
Dream did some insane shit in overture. Destiny and Death are even more powerful than him
Beyonder did kill mistress death but it was not confirmed that mistress death was multiversal or universal in secret wars 2.
The endless are by nature multiversal aspects that came along right after the beginning of the creation
Hard to say. The only way to perma-kill the Endless is to erase them at a conceptual level across the entire DC totality.
Beyonder has the ability to unmake conceptual beings in such a way. However, it required a large portion of his power just to unmake Marvel Death: https://i.imgur.com/wozy2wY.jpg
Wasn't he still stronger than every other cosmic and had his fight with Owen after he erased Death? How would Death not be universal at the very least?
I mean, the other cosmic beings didn't try to directly oppose Beyonder after he dumped most of his power into the cup, which alludes to him still being more powerful. His fight with Owen took place after his full power had been restored, though.
*To clarify, I'm not saying that pre-retcon Beyonder isn't more powerful than the Endless. I'm just questioning his ability to actually beat them, if that makes sense... Because they cannot be beaten unless they are erased in a manner like I mentioned earlier.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 08:06 PM
I'm talking about erasing the Endless entirely/permanently -- not just killing one of their physical manifestations, like Death did to Morpheus there. The latter only amounted to a momentary setback for Dream, as the concept had already assumed another host/form(ie. Daniel Hall) a few pages later:
Eh, I don't think you understand what I'm saying here.
And Destruction still embodies his namesake concept, like the others do: (please log in to view the image)
He simply had a proverbial change of heart(after 10 billion years), and abandoned his realm so that destruction could proceed/evolve on its own. IOW, the concept can still go on without his direct influence, but he still embodies it regardless.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 09:39 PM
Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
But let's go back to Morpheus, there was a brief period of time after Morpheus died and before Daniel used the gem, where the Dreaming didn't have a host, right? Consequently, the Dreaming can exist without a host.
If Beyonder is vulnerable to Starfox's manipulations, an Endless like Despair or Delirium will have a field day with him.
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So you might say that Morpheus was never completely destroyed, because a portion of him still existed in that stone. IOW, the Dreaming was technically never without a host.
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Last edited by Galan007 on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 10:33 PM
Beyonder erases them one by one. It don't matter if it's pre retcon or post retcon (since most of his feats and fights are still applicable post retcon).
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